Ultimate in underfloor heating perhaps?
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They don’t need to be off the floor.
Some people might want their cables to be off the floor.
And in some systems – probably a tiny majority at the very top end in my opinion – an audible benefit might occur by getting cables off the floor.
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I think my poor lonely, rather old little grey brain cell has had a bit of a wash on this issue.
I’ve never heard the difference between with and without cable lifters, so it’s not in my head.
But I don’t deny that there could be a difference in some tiny proportion of very good systems.
I think it’s very rude to tell people they can’t hear a difference and are imagining things when you don’t have a clue whether there could be a difference or not.
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A person would only know if they heard it.
I have never heard such an effect, but in the opening post of this thread on this topic it mentions that Danny Ritchie, an audio professional, can hear the effect of cable risers his system.
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What about the burndy touching the floor, are there people in this forum who hear a difference?
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The same question then goes for the frame too, in the end its a bunch of conductors and semiconductors put in box, why do we need to decouple them from the floor? Does anyome hear a difference? And if yes, can vibrations travel trough the cables attached to the boxes and transfer them in? Perhaps some people could hear something, the fact that some of us do not , does not mean others cannot too? Having or not having sciantific explanation is not argument on its own. Science is a work in progress. Newton was replaced by Einstein, then Bhor, give it a few years amd someone else will come up with something beter. So far we are far from understandimg mostly anything. We live in an experimental phisics, where some theories are better then others, but what counts is the practical result. So if someone fimds an improvement share it with the rest of us so we can try it and benefit from it.
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I agree with what you say here - except that Bohr was involved in [messing up] quantum physics whereas Einstein invented General Relativity theory.
At the moment those two theories are not integrated with one another, and apply to different scales of size.
So Bohr’s ideas did not replace Einstein’s main theory.
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The thing with science is that - you are either inside looking out, or outside looking in.
You’re either someone looking to convince and enlighten others, or looking to understand. Perhaps to shame charlatans.
Creative artistic incentives to help believe in ones ears should be encouraged.
They had an argument for some years , buy later on experimentally Bohr’s theory was prooven correct… details are not for this forum, the idea is that even he was proven wrong.
This is really all that matters in the end.
Some of us will hear differences and some will not - or they will hear them and think them insignificant.
Discussing the scientific mechanisms behind these things may be of interest but few of us here are qualified to talk authoritatively on this so it’s usually not a very productive discussion. Even someone with a PhD in physics may have little understanding of the mechanisms since it is of no real interest in general to scientists or engineers outside the highly specialised sphere of hi-fi engineering and research so is poorly understood. Even one suspects by the people actually designing the things. Much is empirical and down to listening tests.
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Ah - you are referring to the Bohr-Einstein debates on QM.
A sad tale indeed.
The recent book ‘What is Real’ by Adam Becker gives an excellent analysis of that unfortunate exchange.
Admittedly, that’s not relevant to this thread, although it could be discussed in a thread in the lounge, if anyone was to start such a thread.
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It’s only in the head of the receiver that can decide.
Whoever hears a difference it’s still in their head that’s how hearing works.
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Stereo imaging is 100% in the head 
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Thank you for writing your own words rather than posting clip art cliches.
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There’s no beginning to my talents.
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To listen to stereo properly, sit with one ear on either side of your head
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Double cable riser?
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Guys we are talking home/domestic hifi… not the Large Hadron Collider at CERN……
Any such minutiae of variation of such things is almost certainly going to pale compared to barometric air pressure, humidity and temperature which is likely to have far more bearing on the sonic performance from loudspeakers in a room. I don’t see too much discussion on the best weather to listen to one’s hifi….
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