Clueless In Classical

From Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon.

In September, Hunter would invite her to accompany him to Gloucester Cathedral, where as part of that year’s Three Choirs Festival, a new work by Ralph Vaughan Williams would be having its first performance. Ruperta, who despised church music, must have seen some irresistible opening for idle mischief, because she went along wearing a sportive toilette more appropriate to Brighton, with a hat she had always found particularly loathsome but kept handy for occasions just such as this. The composer was conducting two string orchestras set like cantores and decani facing each other across the chancel, with a string quartet between them. The moment Vaughan Williams raised his baton, even before the first notes, something happened to Ruperta. As Phrygian resonances swept the great nave, doubled strings sang back and forth, and nine-part harmonies occupied the bones and blood vessels of those in attendance, very slowly Ruperta began to levitate, nothing vulgar, simply a tactful and stately ascent about halfway to the vaulting, where, tears running without interruption down her face, she floated in the autumnal light above the heads of the audience for the duration of the piece. At the last long diminuendo, she returned calmly to earth and reoccupied herself, never again to pursue her old career of determined pest. She and Hunter, who was vaguely aware that something momentous had befallen her, walked in silence out along the Severn, and it was hours before she could trust herself to speak. “You must never, never forgive me, Hunter,” she whispered. “I can never claim forgiveness from anyone. Somehow, I alone, for every single wrong act in my life, must find a right one to balance it. I may not have that much time left.”

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EMI first press of English String Music bought (1963, white/gold label).
Looking forward to hearing Sir John’s Tallis.

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I don’t think anyone has suggested Scheherazade yet by Rimsky-Kordakov? As an introduction to classical this is a great work with lovely melodies. I particularly enjoy this version on Telarc by Sir Charles Mackerras/LSO

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“I believe in Bach the Father, Beethoven the Son, and Brahms the Holy Spirit of music.”

Hans von Bulow (1885)

:grinning:

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Surprised nobody recommended Beethoven Septet op.20,Schubert octet and The death and the maiden quartet. Also can recommend Couperin Pieces for viola de gamba,Concerts royaus and the Nations.Mozart piano trios and piano quartets,Klemperers Majic flute. Vivaldi Cello convertoes.Hummel trumpet and the two piano concertoes.

VW5 is a desert-island piece for me and I have several recordings. Barbirolli fan though I am, there are several other recordings which are worth a listen IMO.

Hickox has been mentioned above and I find his version of No 5 with the LSO extremely moving. It’s very well recorded too. Also with the LSO is André Previn’s luminous reading from the early 70s, which I find far more involving than his remake with the RPO. It always surprised me that VW should appeal so strongly to an American conductor with something of a showbiz background. And I’ll put in a shout for the underrated Vernon Handley. His recording with the RLPO was on EMI’s budget label, but there was nothing budget about the performance. It was originally coupled with VW’s gorgeous Flos Campi I think.

Finally there is VW’s own performance which, whilst not perhaps as essential as his barnstorming version of the 4th, makes an instructive listen. It is surprisingly straight laced, no over-romanticising here.

Roger

See my first post. I listed the Schubert Octet. I think it is superior to the Beethoven Septet (on which I assume it’s modeled).

What surprises me is the relatively few recommendations of Brahms’ chamber works. His Piano Trio Op. 8 was my gateway into chamber music, and his Clarinet Quintet is in my top 3.

That’s the one, indeed.

Good. I bought it… :grin:

Sir Thomas Beecham made a very famous early stereo recording of ‘Scheherazade’, full of his usual wit and swagger.

I saw Timothy West do a one-man West End show called ‘Beecham’ 30 or more years ago. Just him on stage as Sir Thomas, taking to the audience, taking them into his confidence. With recorded music, of course.

One famous anecdote showed him conducting his Royal Philharmonic in a ballet, and going at a hell of a lick, as was his wont. The (Russian) prima ballerina, mid-twirl, hissed at him ‘Too fest, too fest’, but Beecham ignored her and leaned down to his chum, the leader of the orchestra, and said in a loud stage whisper: “Well, Albert, that made the little b*ggers hop!”

He passed himself off as a clown, but he was a very funny man, with a wicked sense of humour. I remember two other anecdotes, which I’ll share, and just imagine this all being delivered in a plummy, patrician voice but with a Yorkshire accent.

" Sir Adrian Boult came to see me, reeking of Horlicks…"

And my absolute favourite: " Ah yes, Herbert von Karajan, a sort of musical Malcolm Sargent" - which, brilliantly, manages to poke fun at both of his rivals at once!

I must buy as many of Beecham’s LPs as I can. He made far too few.

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I have no qualms. You’ll love it.

Thank you. I’m sure I will.

Listening to Dobrinka Tabakova - String Paths now …
It could easily go first on that list I recommended!
The ECM catalogue is a world of it’s own, and this is a good one.

google: ecm reviews string paths

"Played by its dedicatees (Rysanov, Russian violinist Roman Mints, and Latvian-born Kristina Blaumane, principal cellist of the London Philharmonic), it unfolds in dense streams. For Tabakova the trio breathes as one, as might the moving parts of some singing, bellowed engine. "

Just bought it! Thanks Pete

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Is there a definative Peter & The Wolf rendition - I can remeber hearing that a long time ago and really enjoying it?

Sorry another question. Where do you go to hear classical concerts? I only know of the proms, its a bit like asking where do you listen to heavy metal … I’d say Download :upside_down_face:

There are so many recordings of ‘Peter And The Wolf’, as you might expect.

The best suggestion may be to find a catalogue, either online or in print, and then choose a narrator whose voice you think will appeal to yourself or children in the family.

One suggestion that may appeal is the version narrated by David Bowie (who had a surprisingly light voice, who recorded the piece many years ago accompanying Eugene Ormandy’s Philadelphia Orchestra (probably on RCA Records). But so many have done so, including (and I kid you not) Dame Edna Everage - Barry probably had a good laugh at that over a pint of the amber nectar.

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It would help to know where you live. London’s two purpose designed concert halls are The Royal Festival Hall on the South Bank, by Waterloo Station, and The Barbican, on the edge of the City of London, the financial district (‘Square Mile’).

Neither is ideal, and Simon Rattle tried for years, while he was in charge of the London Symphony Orchestra, to raise funds to build something like the new ‘upside down’ concert hall in Hannover, which you may have seen in one of the Brosnan Bond films (or was it Craig?).

Anyway, Rattle had no success, and buggered off to Germany in a strop (that’s my take, anyway).

The best concert hall in the UK is probably the home of the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra (Rattle’s old stomping ground before he took over the Berliner Philharmoniker), now presided over by the very lovely Mirga Grazintye-Tyla (I can never remember how to spell her name.

For chamber music/solo recitals there are also Wigmore Hall and Cadogan Hall in London which are both very good