Great audio. Everything about the software, particularly network software, is awful. Too many problems to list
Constructive comment ā¦ you been away?
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They are hiring if youāre interested?
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Sorry to hear youāre having issues, Kenny. How can we help solve them? Have you talked to your dealer and/or Naim Support?
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Interestingā¦
Possibly a list of sectors where buggy code is not an optionā¦
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No issues here, Naims app is stable and their streamers sound bloody excellent!
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Well they are owned by Vervent Audio Group so Itās not far from the truth. Alpha Private Equity are the largest stock holder of VAG.
Bahahaaha. Iāve spent nearly 15 years in fintech - mostly working for market infrastructures. Buggy code is the name of the game - if not downright shady vaporware. One globally well known consumer finance company once asked not to have bug fixed because it helped them cook the books in a near untraceable way.
Back on topic, if you search the forum for threads on buggy Naim apps youāll find there is not a consensus. Different people have totally different experiences depending on platform, network config. Some canāt get it out of the gate. Others have used it for years and almost never experienced a problem (myself). At a stretch Iād say perhaps it is not robust against environmental factors. OTOH, my other control point apps like Audirvana can be a real pain to use with no end of crashes and glitches.
I expect a lot is made with COTS modules. If you work in fintech like I used to, youāll also know that a few skilled developers cost the same as Naimās annual operating profit and some ālittleā projects have budgets greater than Naimās annual turnover. In comparison, Naim are trying to do a lot with very little.
But again, Iād suggest searching for shared experiences. Youāll find no shortage of rants about similar problems and information on how they were fixed.
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Thatās not an official Naim post - just Linkedin or a recruiter scraping our official ad and getting the details wrongā¦ Hence no Naim logo on the post.
We are recruiting, though!
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I stumbled on it on LinkedIn anyway, figured it was a suitable point to mention it!
Iāve never seen that page on your website, learnt something today it would seem.
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I suspect Naimās also struggling to hire. Itās a difficult market for employers, and good developers are probably in London, not Salisbury and very expensive.
My advice would actually be to drop the education requirement. IME a developerās education says little about a developerās skill. Iāve seen brilliant developers that didnāt finish any study and bad ones with university degrees. Itās an art, not something you learn from a book. And it will increase their chances of finding someone good as most others do have that requirement.
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And of course you reported this appropriately and the bug got fixed anyway?
Sorry. Nuclear power background here. Quite important code does whatās itās supposed to do.
Absolutely. I had an interesting conversation with a fellow developer a few years back. I was trying to understand why he wrote such awful code without being obvious. I asked him is it was an art or a science and he told me āDonāt be silly. It is a technical discipline pure and simple. You get a spec sheet. You code to it - thatās it.ā Explained everything as far as I was concerned.
In my field I know a lot lower level consultants and mid level managers who studied this stuff at uni. The people who get paid the big bucks for cooking up really cool things probably studied a lot harder but not one day in a classroom. Almost none of my peers have a qualification. But we have track records.
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I know some good software developers with degrees - but none anything to do with computing (e.g. genetics)
Interesting perspective. I know someone who works on core Windows functionality and someone who helped code the platform youāre reading this on. Both studied at university and then spent 3 years or more in a darkened room learning even more on the job. Both have worked with people who were self taught and, as you say, probably worked as hard if not harder. Most of the latter have a reputation for not managing more than 3 years in the big leagues.
Iām not sure what you mean with ābig leaguesā, can you explain? Genuinely asking, as having worked/working for software companies I canāt really think of something that would line up with my experience.
But what is genetics if not a code? Base pairing, Chargaffās rule, DNA makes RNA makes proteins etc.
Iād say Naim have got their work cut out with the most talented people being pulled towards banking, venture capital, modelling in general. In other words, not our hobby.
Apologies for Smiths type miserable-ism.
Thatās why perhaps they shouldnāt be looking for the ābestā or āmost talentedā developers, but for passionate developers who also love music and hifi. Someone who loves his job will gladly work hard or spend his free time thinking about new ideas and solutions to problems.
Money shouldnāt be the primary motivator for this kind of position.
For a bank programmer, hell yea since itās boring as @##@%, but working for a company like Naim would be a privilege to someone who knows and loves the brand.
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