Downsizing. But not through choice

Grand Old Andrew Mountbatten Windsor to be more precise.

Old, maybe, but grand?? Let’s leave such tawdriness ‘off-forum’!

You started it! :smiley:

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We are more into hijacking actually rather than downsizing or downclibing.

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Shame I can’t link to another forum but a very similar situation took place there; For financial reasons the thread starter (Thread title; Main system gone but …) had to relinquish his Luxman system for something older and cheaper.

He enjoys it whilst acknowledging it isn’t the same. Life goes on, he will no doubt climb the tree again but needs must be and priorities lie elsewhere, for the moment at least.

We’re all different and set our own priorities but this, in my humble opinion is a healthy way of looking at it. Clearly, many of you feel different and that’s fine too.

If you have worked hard and spent a lot on hifi to accumulate your perfect system I can understand if you find it hard to let go. Hifi was never that important to me. I enjoy it and like experimenting but its usually, bar a few costly mistakes at the lower echelons of the hobby so forgive my attitude towards this.

Sorry to hear that. I have only upgraded since age 16 but of late I realise that the music matters so much and my ears age 70 are not going to get better although my sense of music is. So I’m here now in the age of being satisfied with what I have. I have My 70s Marantz 2275 and 2252b to NSC 222s and NAP 250s and I love them all for what they are.

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What a nice thread. Naim gear is expensive stuff and it would be easy to be that classic forum where you just have to shoehorn the fact that you’ve just bought an outrageously priced piece of jewellery/hi-fi into every post. I wouldn’t really blame you because if you’re anything like me 95% of your pals and your missus couldn’t care less!

A quick example. I have a lovely 77” LG G4 all wired into an Arcam AV unit sending lush sounds to an ATC setup with ATC SCM50s powered by a Nain Uniti Nova PE. I absolutely love it. When I come home my missus is sitting watching telly through the TV speakers and all of my ‘stuff’ remains switched off! I sometimes think she’s trying to wind me up!

Anyway, I come at this thread from the other end of the telescope. My health has always been rotten since I was a kid (childhood arthritis, now just chronic and systemic) and the meds I’ve taken through the years have produced problems of their own. Last year, (almost exactly) I suffered the thing I’d always expected would kill me, my portal vein exploded and I suffered a massive hemorrhage.An interesting side story about the state of the NHS and quiet privatisation of the ambulance service is that it happened at 5.15am and they wouldn’t be able to get an ambulance to me for an hour and forty minutes by which time I would certainly be dead. I was vomiting red blood and a stream of thick black blood was coming from my bum. I live about a mile from my local hospital (the Royal Free) so I put my trousers and a t-shirt on and tried to walk. I must have terrified early morning dog walkers, vomiting blood into bushes and leaving a black trail behind me! I JUST about made A&E before I passed out and that’s all I remember before waking and being told I’d just survived a four hour op and six and a half pints of blood.

I lay there in bed thinking about how close to death I was and naturally about where my life had gone, where I was going and what was and is my greatest joy. Music came a very solid third after family and animals (watching a dog running around a park feeling nothing but the joy of living is one of the very few things that lift my heart, and to an extent music does that too).

When I got home I spent every penny of my ‘rainy day’ money on exactly the musical equipment that I’ve always loved but never thought I’d own. One poster on this thread said something like ‘if you have to downsize you never really could afford it to start with’ (and to your credit a couple of you pulled him up on such nonsense) but I would say to the OP that since you have the kit already it’s practically free to go and have an hour or two with and there’s not much else in life as capable as lifting your spirit through the hard times as music, best of all (but not entirely) played through some really nice hi-fi. Also, if you HAVE to let it go there’s a ton of lovely not-so-tip-top Hi-Fi for when you’re back on the ladder again, and you WILL be, it’s just a matter of hanging on. Good luck to you all x

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All I can say is wow and so pleased you survived such a terrible ordeal. Welcome to the NAIM forum.
Health always comes first which dawned on me after a 4 hour prostate cancer operation. Just to feel the sun and hear bird song was incredible. We can loose sight of the basics of life sometimes but I share you delusions with people that just don’t “get” sound quality. We are all different but some are more different then others, or words to that effect.

I have friend who fixes old HiFi and he thinks anyone that buys modern HiFi is quite mad and loves his old B&O, Trio, Pioneer tuner Amos from the 1970’s. He honestly doesn’t do anything that struggles with second order harmonics and says detail clarity sounds too analytical for him. I think his ears are not quite pukka but he loves his old stuff and that’s what matters.

I always tell people to only arrive at A&E in an ambulance or you might die in the queue. Seems I was wrong about the wait for an ambulance. You are some chap! Well done.

A great contribution and it’s lovely to see that music has helped you. However, with all due respect, your situation is substantially different to the OP’s, at least from where I am sitting. You made a decision to fully live and spend your money where one of your priorities is. You had the money to do so.

The OP is talking about possible impending financial difficulties which, I will assume, perhaps wrongly, you did not have. You would probably have had enough money to sustain your family, life style (and dogs).

If you have thoughts about possibly getting rid of something like your priced Hifi I will assume most other avenues have already been explored and things perhaps look not so bright.

You did mention in your last sentence though that letting go of a Hifi may be a matter of importance on other, more pressing things. This could be keeping a roof over your and your family’s head, providing food, paying bills etc, all of which imho are more important. You are absolutely right that in these circumstances there will always be Hifi available either cheaper now and perhaps even better in the future.

What I find bizarre is that Mrs AC most of the day watches the SD terrestrial channels, ok generally things which don’t interest me but when I suggest changing to the HD terrestrial channels for the same thing she can’t really see much difference and I suspect her vision is much better than mine!

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I learned one thing today. Here, it’s called TNT channels. Don’t ask me what TNT means . No clue. ( maybe territorial national television?}.

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Turner Network Television

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Actually, it was Tarlton who started it, if you don’t want to go back to the 1420s, (been there, done that, got the chain mail), I just encouraged him, and the Dutch before him :innocent:.

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Thanks for the welcome, chaps. I’m always around for a grizzly story or two but the older we get, the more of these stories we all have. I guess we’re in trouble because when I was younger Naim stuff was something I drooled about walking around Graham’s Hi Fi, years before the pain of living really kicked in (and what a time to be alive). I guess most of us are a little long in the tooth? Naim are missing a trick not making a blood pressure monitor!

There was a reason I told that story though and I guess it ties in with the posters who have also endured the slings and arrows of poor health. Perspective. Pure and simple. Back to the OP, I bet most of us have had to sell/trade stuff we’ve gone on to regret parting with but needs must sometimes. One of my big ones was admitting to myself that my arthritic wrists were making me unsafe to ride my beautiful, tuned up and trick Aprilia Tuono. Poor health preventing you doing things you love sucks.

I really hope if you end up selling your HI-FI you don’t find it too heartbreaking. Ultimately it’s all just temporary anyway.

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C’est la vie! Cue ELP!

Welcome to the Naim forum and this very winding thread , I too had a massive incident last year and am now downsizing the house and almost certainly moving to a flat.
I will probably treat myself to a new TV system with most likely a Naim CI- 102 at its heart, though there do seem to be some interesting alternatives.
If so I will go from one Naim system to three systems with Naim at their core

I have sort of done that but through my cd5x failing, the transport works but no sound. I was looking at a streamer but that would have been pre amp, power, headphone, cd, Streamer, Turntable. I ended up going down the Marantz route which got away with three of those and still sounds good. We are moving too early next year after living here since 1969 when I was 4, but I will be getting rid of all the stuff I don’t need or use any more, Custom shop Strat and hand wired Vox, Motorbike that I only do a few hundred miles a year on, woodwork machinery that I don’t want to use anymore. It’s surprising what you accumulate over the years. I have seen systems that cost many thousands of pounds but for my ears now days would be a waste and I got fed up with too many boxes.

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I can also empathise with many of the posts on this thread. I had emergency (stomach-related) surgery a couple of years ago, and post-op my surgeon told me that I’d had at most two weeks to live. It does kind of put things into perspective, particularly in terms of living for the here and now. (Or should that be the hear and now?)

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I have downsized substantially. I am now sitting listening to my Atom HE with cans.

The downsizing was due to moving to a flat, and using the free capital to help my children buy their own places.

I can honestly say I get as much pleasure from the HE as I did out of my previous kit. I do wonder how ‘low’ I could go and still enjoy it - I suspect quite a long way.

I gave my Linn streamer to my son, so I still get to listen to it occasionally although there is often a difference of views in terms of what is listened to!

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télévision numérique terrestre

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