English Electric 8 (again, sorry...)

Let’s try it a different way … did anyone at Naim try one and decide to keep it in their system? :wink:

I already covered that - could well be; I haven’t conducted an exhaustive survey!

The OP wanted to know if he was on his own and I let him know he wasn’t.

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I have high speed fiber, very high even. Cisco 2960 switch then Etheregen then Innuosphoenixnet gave clear and nice improvements each time. My first switch was the Netgear gs105.
I reconnected it for fun. The collapse in sound quality was dramatic.

Allan, copper! Lucky you!

In all seriousness I sympathise with you as our internet here in rural Kent is diabolically poor. I guess I’m lucky to have over 1Mbps (sometimes as much as 3Mbps), but it’s the regular drops caused by so much noise on the ancient aluminium lines and the many junctions (regular tree falls cut the lines) that run to our house that make streaming life a constant frustration. There is fibre running along the nearest main road but I’m not quite at the point where I’m willing to pay the price of a Bentley to tap into it. We do get a bit of 4G and that works better but it’s not reliable and is subject to atmospheric conditions, so can’t be relied upon. What we have is enough to do the forum and email but streaming content is very hit and miss (mostly miss). So like you, I mainly stream local files or else play vinyl or reels.

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Well, as it’s for for benefit of the forum, what are you waiting for? :slightly_smiling_face:

I hope that makes everyone appreciate your Forum management even more, @Richard.Dane!

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I refer the honourable gentlemen to my earlier answer re not being here to provide in-depth feedback of third-party products :wink:

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I went from 8 Mbps , with a doggy router from 2008, to 500 Mbps fiber now, with the last specs router.
The sound improved, but it was very subtle.
Audiophile switches and Ethernet cables gave obvious, from the first seconds, improvements.

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Maybe ask Tidal, Quobuz etc if they will add a morse code streaming protocol for low bandwidth operations? :grin:

Yes, BT invited me to enquire about paying for the infrastructure upgrades necessary to get a fibre connection. When I said go ahead then, let me know how much it would cost they said £80,000, and about 15 households might benefit. I didn’t bother.

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The last time we had all the lines down here after a big gale we played host to all the BT engineers and their Unimogs parked in the drive and one of the fields. They appreciated the cups of tea we supplied, which I thought might be enough to soften them up before asking about the ins and outs of tapping into the nearest fibre run. Needless to say they practically spat their tea out with the laughter…

Maybe GCHQ or the NSA could help you with that.

Aah! The long awaited Super Lumina ethernet cable.

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The madness if this continues of course, as once installed, they will continue to charge you rent on the infrastructure you bought for the rest of time. Just like they do with the Victorian copper infrastructure they use.

Yikes. I live in a lighthouse located on an iceberg surrounded by 314159 acres of corn but still have gigabit internet. Of course the internet is the only thing preventing keepers of landlocked lighthouses from going insane.

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There is huge inconsistency around the country with this. A friend of mine has recently had FTTP installed even though his is one of just three houses down a lane well over a mile long. There is a threshold of 2mb under which you qualify for this.
For us, with a consistently slow 4.5mb we don’t qualify even though there are a couple of dozen properties nearby and many more that could connect to the same box. The fibre was laid up the road 3 years ago when Open Reach had taxpayers money to squander, then it dried up. There are people who can touch the fibre from their gardens but it has never been used.

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Not suitable for legacy streamers though:

IPoAC has been successfully implemented, but for only nine packets of data, with a packet loss ratio of 55% (due to operator error), and a response time ranging from 3,000 seconds (≈50 minutes) to over 6,000 seconds (≈1.77 hours). Thus, this technology suffers from poor latency

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Brilliant. But which colour/breed of pigeon best enhances the sound quality? :wink:

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And is the woodpigeon version reassuringly more expensive? :wink:

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Amazingly enough the IP Over Avian Carriers RFC was once implemented. A Norwegian Linux Club had too much time I their hands…