English Electric 8Switch

This could be an interesting comment for Naim R&D?

Not sure I would suggest anything. :grin:
I believe they know exactly what they are doing and why. And I’m pretty sure Naim’s tech staff are familiar with fiber connections and their advantages and disadvantages

Hi @Thomas
Don’t mean to belabor this but if your switches including your ER is in the cabinet far from your streamer, what is the long run to the streamer? You said the last 1.5 meters was AQ Vodka.
Thanks for your replies and patience.

Hi @jsaudio,

From the network cabinet to the Ethernet wall socket I use ~12 meters, or more, of industrial grad cat. 6a ethernet cable.
Then, from the wall socket to the ND555 I use a 1,5 meter run of AQ Vodka.

Aha!you have a wall socket to essentially splice the Cat6a to the AQ Vodka.

Exactly! :wink:

I have several wall sockets which I anticipated before the construction : ethernet, dedicated radial, etc.

I posted some pictures of my first steps into room treatment. They show the wall sockets :
–> Don’t buy new speakers – The listening room reality

Have you tested to verify that in your particular home network placing a switches, NAS or computer near your hi-fi actually makes an audible difference?

No, of course not. Why would I? :thinking:

One reason would be if you wanted to link your ER to the streamer with a Chord Music streaming cable and didn’t fancy buying 10m of it.

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I just wondered why you appear to be so sure that your NAS and switch are ‘noisy’ enough to have an audible detrimental impact on your audio system.

I certainly haven’t found that my switches and NAS devices cause any such problems.

Of course, it may be the case that my 2nd gen Linn Klimax DS is more immune to electrical noise then your streamer.

Possible problems include switch smps polluting the mains near hifi rack; direct interference in the EM field at very short range; more noise transferred along short cable; mechanical vibration.

But these are theoretical.

In practice it may sound worse, better or the same.

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Indeed! - theoretically it may sound worse or better. In practice, I have not personally been aware of any of these potential ‘problems’ having a ‘significant’ or consistent impact on audio quality.

As I didn’t test it, I obviously can’t be sure about the fact that electrical noise affects the streamer and NAC.

But I’m pretty sure that “noisy” they are. Electrically and mechanically noisy.

Is the ND555 immune to electrical noise? Clearly not. Not sure any precision device is.

My system, as whole, electronics, speakers and of course the treated room, is pretty revealing. I wouldn’t risk compromising that with switches and computers.

And I’d add that all that networking/computing stuff is pretty bulky and ugly. I can’t imagine having it in my listening room :sweat_smile:

–> I like my system as it is

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FWIW I did experiment, hoping to get everything on the rack and in fact buying an extra Fraim layer for the purpose. It turned out the system sounded better with both the switch and fanless NAS (and subsequently Roon Nucleus) away from the rack. No doubt about it in my system.

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I tried one EE and to my surprise, everything sounded better…! Will this never end…?

So I tried one more (one before Melco and one after)…not 100% better then the first but more like +25%. Since the cost is “within reasons” (when everything else is way beyond that) this extra one will stay also…

Highly recommended to this ears…!

//Jonas

Anyone know what the power consumption of the EE8 is?

From website

The medical-grade power adaptor has been designed to reduce electrical noise from AC power and prevent mains quality issues from affecting the network signals. It also boasts high power efficiency, a no-load power consumption < 0.075W and protection from short circuit, overload and over-voltage.

Thanks, yeh I saw that but that’s for when it’s idle presumably?

5W max

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My unifi switch is using about the same over PoE and no psu. :slight_smile: