Yeah, and itâs making them sound like they donât know what they are talking about. I said this already above, if I go to the EE site and it strongly says X, then I pick a dealer from the same site and the first thing he says is no, the opposite is true, it makes either Chord or the dealer sound clueless or dishonest. You should not expect lower standards in the hifi market than for any other expensive equipment you buy
Iâm sorry but this is getting a bit silly. What Chord say and what a Dealer says can actually be quite different - why on earth does this mean they donât know what theyâre talking about? Different views, thatâs all.
Does it make Naim sound as if they donât know what theyâre talking about because my dealer prefers non-Naim cabling (and I agree with him)?
I found this interview with Alex Crespi of Uptone Audio by the San Francisco Audiophile Society:
Interview contains his views on power supplies as well.
I think you might find that the PS in question is the one that Chord had already identified as being best. Also, as weâve covered before, itâs not just a different case.
They say an LPS is unsuitable. Their upstream provider says the opposite. Their downstream dealer says the opposite. Just does not make sense to me. I use quite expensive Sarum T cables because I like them, but is it good business for them that when I read something on their website I better doubt it?
The PS thing is not about preferences
As you posted on the Screen Freeze thead
Ok, whatever, but I have to say it doesnât bother me at all. Iâm really happy with my 8Switch as it is, out of the box, standard ps. Itâs also not in any way causing me to question why I use a Music streaming cable.
As you posted on the Screen Freeze thead
Canât see anything wrong with that or contradictory to what I wrote here
Re: dealers knowing better than the manufacturer
Ok, whatever, but I have to say it doesnât bother me at all. Iâm really happy with my 8Switch as it is, out of the box, standard ps. Itâs also not in any way causing me to question why I use a Music streaming cable.
I am also happy with my EE and the stock PS, as I wrote further up several times. This is not about that. I would also have no problem with them saying that the SMPS is fine for most, but if you want the absolute best here is the LPS upgrade. Would not be different from them selling Epic and Music cables. This doesnât change that there is a disconnect between statements and also experiences that is unfortunate, and I donât think the attempts to explain it with marketing etc are convincing/sufficient. I just think itâs a riddle, donât see whatâs wrong with questioning what is going on. But anyways I already said, before the discussion was restarted, that whatever, I can live with it only bothering me if nobody else cares. It wasnât me who restarted it by replying to me
Re: dealers knowing better than the manufacturer
Iâm not saying here that the dealer is always right and that the dealer is always wrong in the other thread, so I still donât know what your problem with it is
I am also happy with my EE and the stock PS, as I wrote further up several times. This is not about that. I would also have no problem with them saying that the SMPS is fine for most, but if you want the absolute best here is the LPS upgrade. Would not be different from them selling Epic and Music cables. This doesnât change that there is a disconnect between statements and also experiences that is unfortunate, and I donât think the attempts to explain it with marketing etc are convincing/sufficient. I just think itâs a riddle, donât see whatâs wrong with questioning what is going on. But anyways I already said, before the discussion was restarted, that whatever, I can live with it only bothering me if nobody else cares. It wasnât me who restarted it by replying to me
But theyâre not even addressing the issue youâre having, are they? Why would they, itâs only been on the market for less than a year. Itâs early days yet.
Chord (and their marketing) simply state that they tried both types of PS and preferred SMPSs based upon listening. This particular SMPS was selected at a price point they felt was reasonable when the switch was being developed. Since it launched, there have been, quite naturally, various attempts by 3rd parties to improve things. All quite normal.
I had a chat with them at Bristol when it was launched and they were adamant that their SMPS delivered better performance than the LPSs they tried. They did also say that it was perfectly possible that there may be a better power supply available in the future.
Switches require high speed power supplies so we could not opt for a linear power source due to their speed limitations.
On the website
And:
This clean supply permits an optimum quality network signal, driven by high-accuracy TCXO clock technology.
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I wonder if actually Suedkiez has problems in getting asleep at night, with such questionings
And I thought my terrier was the king of not letting goâŚ
Am I not allowed to reply to replies made to me? I said more than once I donât really care so much, but I admit that I do find it quite annoying with the nonfactual statements and handwaving, so yeah I will reply to them if posed to me.
I wonder if actually Suedkiez has problems in getting asleep at night, with such questionings
IMHO if we are serious about hifi such questionings are quite normal. Or maybe you want to ask the question in the ethernet cable thread. Here we have a well-regarded manufacturer stating something very clearly about their own product and everyone from hobbyists to professionals says that they know better. Not everyone can be right at the same time.
The problem here is no one is able to prove convincingly one way or another, and all judgements are subjective based on personal expectation and preferences.
I find it amusing to say the least that someone or some folks even have multiple ER or EE or CISCO switches in tandem. I say we all live in a mad world.
Money should be spent on something sensible!!!
The problem here is no one is able to prove convincingly one way or another, and all judgements are subjective based on personal expectation and preferences.
And there is no problem with that either, if we are talking about sound quality. If we are talking about things like marketing, product pricing, or technical specifications given by the manufacturer, there is not much more to say than âyeah itâs oddâ, instead of blaming me for pointing out that explaining it away with, e.g., âbut Chord cannot say that there is something betterâ is not convincing in the hifi market or Chord specifically, or that their website contradicts other statements which e.g. they may have made at some hifi show. These are simple facts, get off my back
Donât take me seriously, was just kidding. Someone last night called me silly . I hope he was kidding
I hope we are all aware that even in the somewhat heated debate Iâm sure everyone is in it in a jolly way, I certainly am even if I donât add emojis every time. Itâs not a life and death thing, and it may be normal in hifi, I just donât think itâs a good state of things and havenât been convinced otherwise. As a Chord customer I suppose I am allowed to say that itâs confusing to me