No, no, no, Mike.
You’re kidding yourself.
It doesn’t sound better.
The genius on the Scientific Audio Cynic Website has proven that by measuring that the EE only changed a particular signal he measured by a nano-volt.
No, no, no, Mike.
You’re kidding yourself.
It doesn’t sound better.
The genius on the Scientific Audio Cynic Website has proven that by measuring that the EE only changed a particular signal he measured by a nano-volt.
There is a history behind that which explains my post. You can’t understand…it concerns maybe 2 years of similar posts by a same person on all ethernet threads…
And how many posts are there of certain other people repeating their point of view?
As you said, we won’t agree each other. Better turn the page.
I’m listening through my EE8 and I think it sounds better. Wether it’s mind over matter I’m couldn’t say but the only test results that interest me is my own experience. Numbers, results etc IMO can be manipulated to produce whatever suits ones bias or predetermined point of view.
That’s part of my problem! However, at the same time I remain aware that subjective impression “can be manipulated to produce whatever suits ones bias or predetermined point of view” just as much as numbers
Sorry I don’t see a problem, no ones forcing anyone to buy one nor should we be criticising how someone may or may not hear any difference.
Like many others, I have a curiosity in how things work. “Problem” in making sense of a riddle
Twice I’ve become really excited by adding a component, then later taken it out and realised that I had exaggerated the improvement in SQ.
That happened with the dCS network bridge and the ER.
In both cases my expectations were fizzed up by journalists’ reviews, and manufacturers’ communications, and posts from hifi forums, and my own desire for better SQ.
(Plus, I always get lashed up on wine whenever I fit a new component and test it late into the night.)
So I am no stranger to expectation bias.
It will probably happen again (and may even happen with this EE).
Nevertheless, the way forward is not to insist that changes must be measurable at and only at the analog stage of the dac and nowhere else.
If the change is an alteration of tonality, or how visceral and real instruments sound, that just may not be measurable at that point in the chain with the knowledge and instruments that are being used.
And just to be clear (again), I fully agree with this
That’s fine and good on you, but it doesn’t mean we all need to be the same. I was very sceptical about switches, cables etc but after several tweaks including SL speaker leads have changed my mind. I’m much more open to the idea that (some) these things work not because of anything else other than what I hear.
FR’s right no body questions Naims expensive SL cables which most of us have and I’ve never read any test reports, but they certainly made a difference in my setup.
Bill Maher has a very funny segment on his chat show called, ‘I don’t know it for a fact…I just know it’s true’.
I never said that anyway, quite the opposite in fact.
But I disagree that there is no questioning of SLs or cables in general, as I already wrote. Sure they have a good rep here, but there are also people preferring lavender after having tried other cables, or not hearing differences. And, again, it’s just not the same in the analog realm
I was not saying that these Ethernet switches should in all systems improve the sound. Some systems are not resolving enough also to show the differences. Then there are different network and electrical characteristics, and also the hearing ability of a person.
There are some thread actually on hearing loss and hearing aids. If I was concerned for example, I guess I would not take a lot of interest in audiophile switch. Neither audiophile cables.
As for your DCS network bridge experience, don’t forget that you were connecting it to an all pre/ streamer/ dac component. Normally it was intended to be specially connected to a DCS dac.
I’ve got plain old NACA5, Pete.
But me stereo sounds objectively better tonight than ever before.
I don’t know whether that’s down to the Hydra cable I added a couple of weeks ago, or the Chord 5-pin din cable, or the EE, or all 3, or the glass of Sauvignon blanc I just had.
But more audio information is definitely certainly getting through the system, making it even more as though I’m at the gig in 2006 in Hamburg where the Esbjorn Svensson Trio played such a beautiful and miraculous version of ‘Where We Used to Live’.
Yes, the NB was a daft purchase at that time.
But it doesn’t mean that it’s a bad product…
No, it’s very good at transferring data.
And converting digital data.
I bet it measures well.
In fact, if you look at the dCS site they boast about the fact they design all their gear to measure well.
(They don’t mess around with subjective stuff like listening tests!)
Possibly the later, but I guess that’s the whole point it’s how it sounds for you. Think we all hear things differently some don’t really hear the music they listen to their electronics. I guess that’s what makes the forum interesting (for me anyway) I find there’s 2 types, those who love music and just want to listen and those that are interested in how the music is reproduced. Neither are wrong, just 2 sides of the same coin.
It’s going to be a long night…