At any altitude above sea level except at times of very high air pressure.
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apparently you canāt boil an egg on Mount Everest
Martin
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Indeed, unless you have a pressure cooker! The boiling point of water would be around 70C , which while enough to be sure meat is safe to eat, apparently isnāt high enough to set the white of an egg! If done for long enough you could end up with a reverse runny egg, set yolk and liquid white!
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Chortle! As does buying an ev to save the planet!!
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Quite, colossal pollution footprint.
Martin
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On this Iām no scientist so might be completely wrong, and therefore be nice to me!, but if I understand correctly the damage done by EVs is in the manufacture and recycling/disposal of the batteries, almost in a way making it akin to a modern petrol car where the emissions are minimal, but the damage is caused by the extraction of the fuel and to a lesser extent the disposal of the cat afterwards?
Nigel (@HungryHalibut) yes put like that, keeping all that hot water on the go just seems wrong. Iāll stick with my kettle!
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They are not easy to repair if damaged hence insurance refusals. So it has to be binned and buy another.
There are videos on YT of very new battery powered cars at the scrapyard that cannot be economically repaired.
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Perhaps we should keep the tedious anti EV culture war stuff out of this thread. Itās about Quooker taps.
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As the OP I donāt mind some broadening of the discussion. And I donāt think it is ātedious anti EV culture warā¦ā¦ā, itās a genuine debate as to the viability of EVs. Youāve been quite evangelical with regard to your adoption of an EV and heat pump, quite possibly Iāll go that way myself but Iām interested in all sides of the argument.
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What would be nice to see is a proper, neutral, evaluation of EV and ICE cars, whole life, and analysed from several different usage scenarios such as mainly local short journey, mainly long journey, mixed use, ownership for whole car life, ownership for its first 3 years, and ownership from 3 to say 10 years.
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Thatās been done, I believe - probably not to that level of detail, though.
One of the most important questions is: how is the electricity produced? In some countries, the benefits are almost nil. In others, there is a definite benefit.
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Repairs too. Binning virtually new electric cars because they are uneconomical to repair is bonkers.
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Thanks guys.
The conclusion, for now, is stick with the kettle, and at this moment I donāt require a new car!
Thanks again.
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Late to the party but have one in the new house we moved to last week.
So far I am really happy with it, and it also eliminates the need for an under the sink boiler, meaning you also get hot water almost instantly as it mixes the boiling water with cold water for normal tap function.
Also things like boiling eggs means you can cut a lot of time and energy off boiling the water in the pot.
As for power consumption they say it is 10W and the boiler is insulated like a thermos. The light comes on when it heats and I barely see that happening.
Donāt have long term review yet but in a week I have seen the benefits beyond hot cups of tea and already very happy with the choice.
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Being a numpty I would be worried using the end device.
Going to wash my hands and then getting them scolded.
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Good comment. But the device is protected to avoid that. In normal function the water is not boiling. And if you activate the boiling water function then it automatically switches off if you attempt to use it normally.
Youād have to start the boiling water and willingly shove your hands into the stream 
Hi IB,
I have covered this on a couple of EV / thinking of buying a new car related threads on this very forum over the last 4 years or so.
In summary, petrol & diesel cars generate less carbon dioxide during the manufacturing process than an EV, mainly because of the very high carbon emissions involved in the production of an EVās large batteries, electric motors and power electronics.
If using UK carbon intensity electricity (itās fairly clean), it typically takes 55-70,000 miles of driving for an EVās in-use savings in CO2 emissions to catch up. After circa 55-70k miles, the petrol or Diesel carās whole life CO2 emissions overtake those of an equivalent EV.
On the other hand, if the car is used in Beijing or Poland, the electricity is very carbon intensive, as much of it is generated from coal. In these cases, the in-use carbon emissions of the EV are WORSE than running on petrol or Diesel, so the EVās whole life CO2 emissions are always worse.
However, in Beijing (or Delhi for that matter), there is a different, important reason in favour of EVs. Because the tailpipe emissions are moved out of the city to the coal power plants, urban ground level emissions in the city improve significantly, as will the health and life expectancy of the 10s of millions of people who live there.
So Iām not being judgemental here, just trying to lay out the considerations. Each of us can than make our own decisions, effectively āpicking our preferred poison.ā
Oh, and we have had an Insinkerator hot water tap in our kitchen for over 10 years now. Hot water temperature (as measured) can be controlled between 90C and 98C. We run ours at 96-97C. Insinkerator taps and spare parts are about half the price of Quooker ones and do the same job. The old Insinkerator tank design failed every 4 years or so and was very annoying. The latest one addresses the old design weakness and has been super for over 5 years and counting.
There is an increased parasitic loss from always having a litre of water at 97C in an insulated tank but for us this has been offset by no longer boiling more water in the kettle than we need each time and by the less efficient heating of pans of water on the hob. Freeing up worktop space has been a strong positive for us. YMMV.
Hope this helps, BF
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That of course is part of any of the ownership models. FWIW where you appear to have heard of E-cars binned young, the impression I have is that must be an extreme case, and of course there are ICE cars that give major problems when young, enough to bin if people knew bat first inset. There was an interesting online smear about Tesla build quality a year if twk ago, but looking into it showed very little actual evidence and then mostly highly exaggerated. But this is why Iād like to see s proper detailed and neutral assessment, not the all-too-common examples of people biased towards one picking all the dirt they can on the other and repeating online.