Expensive high-end power cables vs Naim standard cables

Not in UK sockets!

*except it seems in Malta where I’d see these plugged into UK sockets everywhere

I didn’t thought there are so many different in the world:

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If that’s the case, why did they ditch the stock 14 AWG WellShin cables in recent years, without any explanation, and then replace them with even cheaper and smaller cables?

I believe non UK products are shipped with much thinner AellShin cables than in the past unfortunately. This has been mentioned on other threads.

The WellShins are also used by IBM and ship with their servers so I acquired a number from my last job. I’ve actually made a number of decent mains leads simply using quality Furutech plugs and male IEC ends but with the heavy gauge WellShin in between.

I don’t have anything against fancy mains cables but I do suspect most of the special sauce is in the terminations rather than cable itself.

If you are cable skeptical/suspicious (which is a healthy starting point), then a good starting point is something like the lower cost Furutech studio range. Something like an Empire or Astoria between wall and mains block is about a third of the cost of a PowerLine and demonstrates the effect quite easily without a regrettable cost if it doesn’t change your mind.

As to distance to power station arguments, this is nonsense. There is zero connection to a power station. Your connection is to the transformer at the local substation. And if you live at the end of the road where that is, your 2m long mains lead might be as much as 15% of the distance. And from your hifi power supply, the mains lead isn’t the last 2m, it’s the first 2m. In addition, the cable behind the wall is solid core, not flex. Once you plug something into the wall you are not just electrically coupling the hifi to mains supply by mechanically coupling the hifi to the wall. So the terminations play an important role.

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I just got a new Naim original power cord. It’s an I-SHENG 1mm2 with EU 250V/16A schuko and 250V/10A IEC. Same as it always has been at least where I live.

No idea. Not sure I know those. Are they for the US? I thought Naim used the “tibia” mains cables for the US. They were definitely one that was listened to and compared with others and sounded superior - I know because I remember sitting in on some of the listening tests.

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“Tibia” is the medical term for the shin bone. That’s why WellShin cables are called that, it’s a play on words.

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Almost frightened to mention I use a two-headed Grahams Hydra.

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If you have a two headed hydra you may as well just wire both mains leads into the same plug.

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It is simply to get over the fact that my nearest socket is over 2m away, otherwise I’d just have used the two PLLs.

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Could you do this also with two Powerlines to create a Powerline Hydra?

Edit: EU version, not in UK due to the fuse.

Awaiting @Skeptikal:wink:

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This would probably bugger up the decoupling in the mains plug which is a big part of the sound improvement.

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The EU version has a normal Furutech schuko. Nothing fancy with decoupling. Only the IEC has that covered.

Two wires probably won’t fit in that Furutech connector though.

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It all depends on whether you can stuff both leads onto one plug. Powerlines are pretty thick so it seems unlikely it would work, and I’m not sure I’d mess around with expensive cables. When I had a Rega P10 and Aria phono stage they were both wired into one plug. In the past I’ve got two if not three Naim leads into a single plug. It’s perfectly safe and well within the 13 amp fuse limit.

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That’s what the Musicline Powerigel Plus is

Yes, they’re the cables we used to receive here in the USA. You guys refer to them as “tibia” cables. They were 14 AWG and made by WellShin. Even before the New Classic equipment was released, out of nowhere, Naim started shipping products with 18 AWG cables from some other asian supplier. All of my New Classic equipment also came with these different thinner cables. I’ve brought it up a few times in the past year or so and no one seems to care. This forum has always sworn by and promoted using the cable that Naim provides, so it’s surprising to me that no one is even questioning the change.

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That has way too many ends and is huge.

I don’t know why. Perhaps supply became an issue? Next time I’m down at the factory I’ll see if I can find out from someone.

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