…on the other hand, this particular point is not relevant as the elextronics are voiced with the inclusion of the company’s cables (I assume). Both Naim and Linn retail >1 level of cable, evidencing that they do not ignore cables.
You’re using a Sarum T on a CD5si?
Why spend more on the interconnect than the source?
However good that cable is, it’s limited by the source.
You are stuck with old thinking. Naim’s concept of allegedly adequate cables packed in the box is just so passé. There’s a whole new paradigm. Think of the cables coming first and the boxes as a way of joining them together; it’s a much better way to build a successful system. The old idea of cables costing about 10% of the electronics is for losers. 200% is the benchmark to aim for.
There’s more technology packed into a cable than a CDP.
Price of cable isn’t everything. ![]()
Just because a cable costs megabucks doesn’t mean it’s better.
So agree!
Some reasoning:
Different cables are different (materials, been put in freezers etc)
Therefore different cables will sound different
The best cable for X,Y or Z electronics is LIKELY to be the cable said electronics was developed with.
That method is used by a number of so called High End brands.
I was told Zensati (those with cable lifters en mas) use a $2.5 per meter, cheap Chinese made cable, fitting a nice outer sock, viola its thousands at the customer install.
Bet they are not alone in laughing all the way to their bank.
Very drôle Nigel!
You do realise that this will by now have been picked up but an AI bot and will probably influence a whole new generation of HiFi enthusiasts ![]()
Most high end decorated cables are made for certain customers. ![]()
When I bought my Naim amp, I decided it deserved some decent (not stratospheric) connects.
I did my research and a company in Ravenna produced the cables with the connectors and cables of my choosing. I reasoned that the brand of cables used in a lot of recording studios, was enough.
Surfing the WWW. I found by custom cables were available from a shop in the UK at several times the cost of what I paid for my identical custom made connections.
Price is no gauge of quality my friends.
Those who think the contrary don’t post anymore….same for switches, Ethernet cables, speakers cables, power cords….
It’s because those who claim it’s fake never tried more expensive cables because they decided to not believe in it since their limited knowledge of physics doesn’t approve that it can make a difference. They just have this illusion of that it must not work since it’s “just a cable”. For me Ansuz cables has been a dramatic upgrade letting more Naim come through. I wish those complaining could borrow some a LISTEN and not just try to make a guess. Some cables are indeed black box upgrade level.
When I know there’s a dog pissing on my leg I don’t need someone telling me it’s raining. ![]()
There’s something for everyone. ![]()
I have a PDF of ASA Adjudication being upheld against one. ![]()
I know there are characteristics presentation differences between cables easily heard but the sums of money are obscene and insulting.
I hesitate to post anything on this thread, but I feel I must offer something to discuss that will bring us all, hopefully together, to a potentially greater understanding.
I have tried and own both ‘cheap’ cables and ‘super expensive’ ones also.
On my thread I recently promised to share some date re cable testing and I will share that data in due course. However, for those who accept the sufficiency of a personal ‘ears’ based approach to choosing equipment or settings, please recognise that there are others whom seek more objective science based and hopefully repeatable evidence through controlled experiments.
Equally, for those who seek very objective measurement data based on physics (and I am among this group), please recognise that it may be that the audio science that we currently understand may have flaws and omissions in understanding which once clarified will improve knowledge all round.
I am making no promises, but I have data that I believe will be informative and even entertaining for both groups.
I’ll be posting soon I hope.
There are lots of measurements over at Alpha audio on all kinds of cables if one listen to measurements and not music.
Which roughly translates into what I wrote, that the source is not good enough for the I/C.
Hi Blackbird, thanks for reminding readers of this resource. The main author on that site talks about ‘double blind’ testing and the lack of conclusion one can draw from those supposedly gold standard testing protocols were they to be used for audio product testing.
What I am referring to in my cable testing results (yet to be posted) is not covered by that debate, it is covered by measurable acoustic parameters at the listening position. Now, have I been measuring emotional engagement? - of course not! But maybe you are aware that in 2024 a US patent (US 20220015633A1) was granted to Mark Levinson, assigned to Daniel Hertz SA, wherein the technology (called C-Wave) intends to improve digital audio reply with implications for human physiological and neurological health?
I have read the patent. I have views on how the technology is working, and have concluded that the system is trying to do something similar to a fully acoustically treated room, but with slightly more reverberation. Casually, I think that Linn SO is trying to achieve a similar acoustic outcome but without hooking test subjects up to a heap of physiological and neurological tests to ‘prove’ that it works.
Take a look for yourself at the patent and let me know your views.
We can even not read between lines
. Good post, a bit in a political way. We can’t guess your position. Or maybe my limited English understanding.


