Furutech Discussion

I’ve seen this before but not the reason. There are certainly mains level connections soldered within equipment from IEC socket inwards, I don’t recall what was done where the cable was captive.

The story goes that in the case of a short or fault there was a chance the solder would melt before fuses blew with current draw thus being an unsafe method of termination fire risk.
That’s why all mains installations are screw terminal or crimp.

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I was today years old learning about this, thanks Skeptikal

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Crimping is almost always preferable to soldering. The only place that soldering is necessary is on PCB’s otherwise a good crimp sounds better and is much more reliable. Almost all the connections in modern cars are crimped, military and NASA are crimped. Solder can develop cracks, and cold joints. JMO

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You’re most welcome I’m glad I could help. :+1:t2:

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Although isn’t crimping frowned upon inside today’s loudspeakers ?
I recall several articles suggesting bad practice crimping the cables to those little clip in jobs instead of soldering.

I think that’s probably in relation to what type of crimp is used. If they use those standard quality connectors you find in any big box store, no that’s not ideal. If they use a good quality connector, then a crimp connection can still be good (though I prefer a good quality solder connection).

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Depends on the thickness of wire and connection. Too many solder connections involved a bucket too large for the wire and it needs flooding with solder. This is why Naim plugs are soo very good. I used solder where the connection and wire are well matched. Crimp when solder would be difficult. I have no concerns at all about the quality of a good crimp that totally deforms the wire and connection into one giving a superb and airtight bond.

Very much a case of right connection for the specifics of the job in my experience rather than one being superior to the other.

If I see crimps inside a speaker or hifi box, I don’t pass judgement.

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8h

Unfortunately, after 1 week, as I ordered the Chord M6,Powerhaus, a dealer informed me today that the M6 is no longer made with Shukko plugs.
Sad.
So I ordered a Furutech 609e

It’s made on order only, in Japan. So maybe 6 weeks wait.

Hope I will be not dissatisfied :grinning:

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Have you tried asking a different dealer ?
The current Chord advertisement shows
“ Available in Euro, UK and Aus/NZ variants “

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Thanks for sharing. If you have received the Furutech 609, it would be very interesting to hear your experiences. Furutech Power distributors are not so common here in the forum.

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@frenchrooster, I know nothing of the Chord Powerhaus but I’d say its fairly likely the Furutech product comes with far superior outlets/IEC inlets. Keep us posted on how you make out with it once it arrives.

As for me, I think I’ve purchased my last pair of FI-50 NCF(R) connectors (that is unless I try a “NCF Powerline”, which is still in the back of my mind). This will make 7 50 NCF(R) ends now, which include both ends on the cable from wall to powerbar, both ends on my DAC, both ends on my phono stage & a male end on my Streamer. The 15+ R in the pic is to make a cord for my TT power supply (S022N, FI-28G IEC).

I have mentioned above a few times about my new PC’s with the FI-50 NCF(R) ends taking ~400hrs before they settled down & after that not noticing the big swings in balance & just improvements after that. I can say now that, that appears to be related to the current draw of the device, when connected to just low current draw, the burn in will likely be much longer. When just connected to my streamer & then DAC, the FI-50 NCF(R)/S55N combo still wasn’t run in after 3-4 weeks, that combo needed more like 5-6 weeks (the smaller S022N wire w/ FI-50M NCF(R) & FI-28(G) combo was somewhere in between).

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I’m also interested in hearing your thoughts. I’ve already blown my 2023 hifi budget but this is on my list for the new year.

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I serious thought about this unit when I heard about it as I like Chord products. However it’s been well over a year and still no announcement about them arriving in North America. I contacted Chord directly and they said it’s tied up in regulations or something like that.

In the meantime I’m loving what that Wall socket has done to my system. Even with a pre-burn-in the unit has had plenty of ups and downs. Everything and I mean everything you mentioned has happened to me. Over the last week it’s been wonderfully stable and I’m really enjoying it.

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He asked Chord directly….

OK, but I am still sceptical.
Let’s see, time will tell.

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Would be curious if you could compare - better sockets and wiring from Furutech vs the ARAY noise suppression from Chord M6?

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They ordered it from Chord. One week later they responded them ( Analogue Seduction) that they don’t do the Shukko anymore. Why should I doubt?
They offered me the same price for the Furutech, which is 600 euros more expensive. They even advised me the Niagara, which is half less costly.

I will never happen, as there’s no EU M6 model. But yes, I would like too.

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Analogue Seduction are a UK dealer, I wonder why they called them. I would not expect a UK dealer to carry an EU Type F ( Schuko ) product.
Why not call the French Chord distributor ….
Stentor
2 Avenue du Coeur de l’Ouest, PA de l’Oseraye, 44390 Puceul
+33 9.83.23.04.15
www . stentor-distribution .fr/

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