I was discussing a few things with Naim recently and as an aside he educated me a little on some inexpensive ways on room treatments.
It was suggested a good cheap way was hanging framed art, photos, etc which prevents the sound waves from hitting a flat surface. Coincidentally, my front wall is covered in such.
What are your thoughts on the above and other options? Also if you know a good basic (101) source on the web, publication or YouTube?
Get a blanket to put over the tv (personally it’s too tricky for me to do but others have had good results) and try closing your curtains while listening if you have big windows.
We have a smallish TV and big mirror facing the speakers (below). I’ve put a NHS towel (the big red ones) and a fuzzy blanket over both at times…certainly cuts any hot treble on some records. Must try it again.
Also thinking of trying the blinds at different angles, when I’ve got nothing better to do
If you have a coffee table or similar between you and your speakers, don’t leave it bare - it’ll be too good a reflector. Make sure there are some books (or anything, really) on it to break up the single flat surface.
Similarly, books (or LPs, CDs etc) are usually on shelves presenting a single fairly flat vertical surface which will reflect the sound rather too well. If you can bear it, push some books (etc) back on the shelves more than others to produce a much less coherent reflecting surface.
Wallpaper cloth as opposed to thin sheer wallpaper or paint can greatly reduce the effects of HF reflections the next time you redecorate. Something with a rough weave.
Most of these suggestions will suck out the treble from the sound and not touch the bass. I have a small room with loads of deep bass traps to stop the bass from becoming boomy.
I reckon a big deep sofa might help me (if only I had the room of course)!
One of the commonest room issues is surely a bouncy floor.
We found a big improvement from putting Isoacoustic Gaias under the speakers. It only addresses one issue, but it is a lot easier than gluing egg boxes to the walls or (for fans of Flanders and Swan) bottle tops to the floor, and it works well in a variety of situations.
They do turn up on eBay and other products are available…
I’m not a fan of room treatments. I have a difficult room because of its construction materials, to say the least. There were years when I had wall rugs, acoustic pillows, corner triangles, quarter round bass traps and flat wall panels. . Some slightly improved the sound. Some made it worse. All in some way, destroyed the sense of it being our living room which needed to be first and foremost. We are blessed with a great NYC skyline view. All of the aforementioned treatments encroached on that in some way. The only thing left is a rug in front of the speakers. Is the sound acoustics perfect—far from it.
What we ended up doing is preserving what was great about our living room, including where we placed the equipment to preserve the view.
We also selected equipment and speakers that performed really well in our space. Selecting equipment that performed optimally in our difficult space was goal number one. We were also fortunate in that our dealer had lived in the same building many years ago and knew its challenges.
Nicely put together Jay and makes a lot of sense. You are right, a living room is a communal space to be enjoyed for many purposes other than music. I will take all suggestions above and see what is practical, inexpensive, and not so intrusive to the aesthetics of the room.
I also live in New York but it seems your window view of the city might be grander than mine although I do have a “tasty” (John Peel) room to spin my albums.
Maybe you can throw a few ideas at me sometime about your choices of speakers/equipment and why. Who is your dealer?
All speaker manufacturers always suggest to assemble the speakers to be placed in the listening room in a very symmetrical fashion. X amount away from side walls and Y amount from back walls.
This is great in a suitable room.
There is the possibility of having of course a living domestic space that it’s just not practical to have things set up as such.
You can have things set up in a corner,
Imagine the listening axis of X amount away from the stereo axis central between speaker distance from each other as the Y forming a triangle. Usually 2 metres between speakers and 3 metres away from between the central distance between.. as a T shape.
Imagine next the possible space this T shape can reasonably fit within the room. Like this..
My dealer is Innovative Audio. I use SolidSteel racks. The Naim racks would be a nightmare for us, given vision snd coordination. The right wall opens into a dining area. The right wall, before it opens into the dining area is about 12 feet. The left wall is about 24 feet. It has two bookcases. In between the bookcases is a poster (48 x 72) which is in a museum quality plexiglass box. Bookcases are loaded with books of varying width. The right wall has three framed canvas paintings. Wood frame. No glass. The equipment racks are about 25 feet from the speakers on the left. We have a high density rug in front of the speakers. The speakers are 17.5 inches from the wall behind them which has the windows. They are about 30 inches from the side walls. I left speaker setup to the dealer tech. He did a good job.
The challenge of the room is its construction. The walls and floors are concrete, with plaster, cinder block and wire mesh. Renovation is a real challenge, as is WiFi. Floors are parquet over 18 inches of concrete. When re renovated, we had Ethernet cable run to the router, which in the second bedroom used as an office.
CD storage is on the right wall. Vinyl storage on the left wall. Custom oak storage.
We have about 2500 records and 500 CDs. Because of vision and coordination we rarely listen to Vinyl. We stream most often.
Sorry I was away and missed your detailed description of your living room. Thanks for that.
Covid and working at home (hate) really screwed up the industrial flow of my place so now it’s a little crowded. How it helps or diminishes my sound, not at that level yet. Guess I will find out when I move and start over again.