Things learned along the way…
Several elements to a well rounded system, with music streaming at its heart. Streamer - server - external DAC - amplifier, maybe an integrated amp. Also user interfaces for access and navigation and the internet music streaming platforms. Power supplies too, if you wish to get into that. (Maybe not PSU’s . So, leaving that for another day).
At the budget end of the streamer market, there is a plethora of offerings. Most are mentioned in other threads, in Streaming Audio. All offer something interesting. However, with a modest, more generous budget, thoughts would start some where else instead. On balance, spending on source first, as a priority with the budget.
Here are a few thoughts about what I’ve learned over recent years - experience and experiments ….
Digital sources : Reference points
Just focussing on sound quality only, here are a few reference points …
- Naim NDX2 is better than ND5 XS2
- ND5 XS2 + nDAC is better then bare NDX2. (Can be achieved for half the cost of NDX2). Albeit two boxes, instead of one.
- Also, ND5 XS2 is better than (streaming component only in ) NSC222
- ND5 XS2 is better than Innous ZENmini + LPSU, (when using their respective internal DAC’s)
- ND5 XS2 and Innous ZENmini + LPSU - both used as transport with nDAC - both almost equal. ND5 XS2 edges it. Just.
- Innous ZENmini + LPSU is better than ZENmini bare.
- Innous Pulse is better than Naim ND5 XS2. Same or similar costs. ( Note : Pulse is streaming transport only. No internal DAC. So needs to be partnered with a decent external DAC ).
- I am told, (not auditioned this myself) Innous Pulsar is equal to NDX2. Innous costs less.
- Chord Qutest performs same or similar as Naim DAC. Maybe slightly different presentation, it’s subjective. Qutest has limited number of inputs, compared to nDAC.
- Chord Hugo TT is better than nDAC and Qutest.
Now let’s look at whole solutions…
So, looking at Naim system ideas. (After all, this is a Naim forum).
[ Note : Suggested prices, from Nov 2023 ]
A recommendation
My opinion FWIW, putting all that together.
With what I have learned and know, would probably pursue one of these two solutions. Both are three boxes.
(1) ND5 XS2 + nDAC → SN3 ( Budget around £5,500 )
Note : There is some redundancy here, as the streamer has an internal DAC which has been paid for, but isn’t being used. This idea leads to another option…
(2) Innous Pulse + Chord Qutest → SN3 ( Budget around £ 6k )
Note : At this price point, probably the best streaming SQ out there, right now.
TBH, think the nDAC and Qutest are interchangeable in this regard. Select the one that suits you best.
The all Naim option 1 has the aesthetic appeal of being all same form factor.
Another way forward, with this option, is to take your time. Start with ND5 XS2 and SN3 for maybe around £4,500 for now. Later, add an external DAC for a nice upgrade, when you are ready. nDAC’s appear to changing hands for around £1,000 at the moment.
If you don’t so much mind mixed items, from different brands, maybe think seriously about the Innous Pulse, which is so seriously good. With any decent DAC, like the nDAC or Chord Qutest, with a SN3.
Diminutive shoe boxes
When funds allow, add the ubiquitous Innous ZENmini. It’s an absolute darling. Transfer your CD collection archive across. The ZM can become your server, for the whole house. Also offer local streaming, in one room, for any playback deceive. One nice idea is the UQ2. (If you wish, go on a journey with the ZM and add LPSU and external DAC over time ). In the meantime, add the natty NAP100 to a Uniti Qute 2 for a perfectly formed shoe box system. The ZENmini is the obvious choice to match with Naim UQ2 + NAP100. Perfect matching form factor.
If you can afford better, maybe stretch to full size better sibling Zenith mk3. Skipping the mid placed Zen on the basis that ZENmini with the LPSU gets close anyway.
At this point, it is worth noting an advantage here for the user, if both digital sources are Innous the result is a single UI - Sense - for both devices.
Think about UI
Think about user interface. FWIW, my opinion is Naim App is good. Works perfectly well. Innous Sense is better. For me, Roon is best. Maybe look at Roon further down the line.
Knowledge is good
Take time. Do lots of research research.
Go look at alternative products and ideas, with Innous and Chord products, in particular.
Look for opportunities to use some of the items you’re not familiar with. Particularly the user interfaces.
Maybe sign up for the free trials with the music streaming platforms (Tidal, Qobuz, etc) and see how they work too
Good luck