Metadata Issue on Uniti Core

Hi,

I go to rip the “Eagels Live From The Forum . MMXVIII” album today, but the Core cannot recognize the metadata.

Today many competitor’s ripper also use the gracenote for the metadata, will NAIM consider to change their metadata database to Gracenote ?

Hope can see it on coming future.

Regards,
marcobb0312

Is finding metadata of other CDs working still? If it is then you will have to use the Naim app editor to enter it manually for this CD. But if it’s not finding metadata for other CDs, then try a full power off restart.

Best

David

It,s very new David released on 15 th October this year, hence its not yet in the Rovi database. The OP has a choice of waiting for Rovi and Core to update or as you mention a manual update. Though its a long long album, i would add the album cover manually and wait for the Core to update the rest.

Ah ok. There was a guy in another thread a few days ago who said his Core wasn’t finding metadata anymore. I suggested a power off restart and that worked for him. But if it’s a very new CD, Rovi can take a while to list it.

Best

David

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Hi - I’m “the other guy!” On David’s suggestion, a full power-off restart seemed to fix the problem, but that proved only temporary, and unfortunately several subsequent full power-off restarts, router shutdown/restarts, and resets to factory settings haven’t worked. I’ve double checked the internet connection which is good, but the Core is not finding any metadata on the services, even on older CD’s.
A request for help has been e-mailed to Naim support. Will report back! Best - Bob Burgess

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Hi David,

Most of my albums are in Chinese. If Core does not use Gracenote DB, 90% of them will not find metadata and many manufacturers have already used Gracenote, I hope Naim will face this problem squarely.

Best Regards,
marcobb0312

Naim uses a hierarchy of Rovi, then MusicBrainz, then FreeDB. Presumably there would be a cost to adding another metadata lookup source, on a per unit basis I guess. I suppose it depends whether Naim think they have enough customers in that part of the world to justify the expense.

Best

David

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David, did you get a response from last week from Charlie Henderson and Steve on Uniti Core issues? The passion that @Stevesky applies on vtuner radio could be applied to Core issues imo.

No I haven’t seen any response from either of them yet…

Best

David

Hi @davidhendon

Got a feeling we may of missed a post somewhere. We don’t officially monitor this forum for every post, but if we have a spare 5 mins then we catch up as best we can.

Could you point me in the direction of the original post? On a public forum we can’t comment on various stuff like future developments etc, but naturally we try and be as helpful as we can.

Best regards

Steve Harris
Software Director
Naim Audio Ltd.

@Stevesky this was the post. But you should read that thread quickly from the beginning (it’s quite long but you don’t need read it in detail) to understand the context.

What are the benefits of the Core?

Best

David

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Advice please. I have a Uniti Core and have ripped my CD collection to it.

For around 45 CDs I have had to add (manually) name of album, track names and artwork as the albums were not known.

I want to use the ripped CDs outside of the Naim app in two ways:-

  • copied to a SD card for playing in the car
  • playing via my network through a DAC to another HIFI system (which is not Naim)

However, the copied files and the view of the hard drive show the album as it was ripped i.e. with no album name or track name

I have spoken the the helpdesk and have been told that the edits I have made via the name app are held in a Naim database which cannot be read via my my network, I can only read and copy the original rip.

Any thoughts on how best to sort this?

Thanks Phil

Looks like you are a victim of the inability of non-Naim devices to read metadata in the proprietary way that Naim rippers store it. If you had ripped to FLAC instead of WAV you wouldn’t have had this problem. The old Naim servers allowed you to transcode your library from WAV to FLAC to avoid this issue, but that function has bizarrely been removed from the Core.

All is working fine now. Not really sure what caused my metadata problems, but maybe it was related to an issue with only specific cd’s not on the services. Thanks though for your input and assistance! Best - Bob

Does anyone know if the Core will rip and play XRCD’s, I was thinking on ordering a few from Acoustic sounds?

As @ChrisSU explains, Naim provides no support for exporting the metadata of WAV rips to open standards on the Core. You have to rip your CDs again or rely on third party software like http://www.jthink.net/songkong/. The reason why Naim’s software support for the Core is so poor is beyond my understanding but here we are!

Thx Chris. I have ripped in FLAC so don’t think this is the explanation. I think the helpdesk explanation is probably right but just want to find a way of easily updating the metadata/avoiding the issue again.

@davidhendon did steve harris follow up on your note after prompting.

No Gazza. He hasn’t yet.

Best

David

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Hi @davidhendon, @Gazza ,

I will answer this one - but not this week :wink: I’m on holidays admiring the great British weather.

Best

Steve