Naim and Dynaudio Thread

Is there a problem with the assembly? :flushed:

There is.

Jeezā€¦just tell him whatā€™s wrong. Are you really gonna make him grovel for it?

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I bet a pint of Guinness there is nothing wring wird it :blush:

*wrong with it :blush:

Iā€™m no expert on it but it looks like Quadraspire, so I looked on the website. From what I can tell it appears the shelves are upside down.

Now I see it as well. But as long as he drives on the wrong side of the Road he can assemble his shelfs upside down :joy:

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Think Iā€™ll make a separate topicā€¦since moving from Nl to Au, the sound collapsed. Sure, the room is twice as big and the walls are shitty cardboard walls instead of brick. But the difference is staggeringā€¦

Have you messed with positioning? If possible bring them out into the room a bit. Try a bit of toe in. How far away is your listening position from the speakers?

Second the comment about bringing them out into the room a bit. If these are like the big floor-standing Contours with rear port they will benefit from it. Recommend a tiny bit of toe-in and possibly a smidgen of tilt-down, depending on where you are sat relative to them.

Dynaudio have made a video on speaker placement - I posted a link to it on 15 Feb in this thread - it is very helpful IMO

Agree. The Contours need to be off any walls. Even Dynaudio says .5m minimum. Look at how mine are. Thatā€™s about the minimum.

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[quote=ā€œQuinn_MIT, post:8, topic:904, full:trueā€]I do not see why I need any additional subwoofer.
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Imo a subwoofer is the most important main component :slightly_smiling_face:

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Are your subs playing below your mains please?

My speakers are -3db at 28 Hz. I have the subs set at their lowest crossover point, 30 Hz.

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Thanks for your reply. I think that 30Hz is far too low as its wasting the potential of the subs. Itā€™s not about just plugging the gap. If the subs are capable then why have the mains needlessly busting their guts when all things being equal the subs will deal with and reproduce these low frequencies far more effectively.

Donā€™t waste the potential of the subwoofers. Unburden the mains by crossing over at or as close to 80Hz and pass this LF burden on to the subs. A sub/sat is the ideal configuration however the bottom two octaves of 20Hz-40Hz and 40Hz-80Hz are best left to the subs to deal with.

If effectively aligned/calibrated/dialled in the subs should integrate seamlessly with the mains and disappear into the soundstage even at these high crossover frequencies.

Thanks for the suggestions, but the subs arenā€™t going to take any burden off the speakers. I use the REL high-level inputs from the speaker outputs. There is no crossover controlling output to the speakers, so they are getting the full audio signal anyway.

On top of that, setting the sub crossover higher makes the whole system more boomy and less refined. Iā€™ve used various music to tune the integration of the speakers and subs. For the REL crossover most notably Bach organ music recorded in a European cathedral with the largest of pipes. Setting the crossover higher sounds worse.

Further, my speakers ā€“ Dynaudio Confidence C2 Platinum ā€“ are quite capable of excellent reproduction in the 40-80 Hz region. As I have the system setup now, the subs disappear into the room, never drawing attention to themselves, and the soundstage is excellent, for everything from solo lute music to large scale Mahler/Strauss symphonies.

A very experienced REL dealer helped me set these up in the first place.

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Sorry but crossing subwoofers at 80hz is way to high with passive speakers such as Dynaudio C2s. The combined bass output from subs and speakers would be too much compared to higher frequencies.
I used to have 2 subs with ProAc Studio 100s and found the sweet spot for the crossover to be around 30hz at 24 db/octave.

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Exactly my point. You canā€™t setup subs for a stereo as you might for a home theater system.

Youā€™re welcome.

This should be done correctly by using an active crossover and with high pass to the mains and low pass to the subs. If not then setting the subs at eg. 60Hz and with the mains still being run full range down to and below 60Hz will overlap and result in a boomy and less refined sound.

Iā€™ll say and add to what I said again. A subwoofer is the most important main component however donā€™t waste the potential of the subwoofer/s. Unburden the mains by crossing over at or as close to 80Hz and pass this LF burden on to the subs. A sub/sat is the ideal configuration however the bottom two octaves of 20Hz-40Hz and 40Hz-80Hz are best left to the subs to deal with.

If effectively aligned/calibrated/dialled in the sub/s should integrate seamlessly with the mains and disappear into the soundstage even at these high crossover frequencies with a sharp, tight fisted, fast and punchy sub bass.