Near Field describes a monitoring technique used in studios and in broadcasting for mixing purposes. To be precise it´s not an approach but a set of requirements with absolute linearity beeing one of the main keywords.
Interesting, I bought a pair of a ProAc K3 recently and their set up advice aligns with your experience. They recommend 8ft between the speakers with a listening position 8 ft from the speakers, and in so doing they claim you can pretty much eliminate any adverse room effects.
It certainly seems to work, my room is long & narrow, suspended floor, and moving the listening position forward by a few feet has greatly improved the listening experience.
Thanks PBenny the proof is in the pudding … I’m certainly happy eating mine. Problem is I had to turn all off last night because of the storm over London - it’s going to take a few days to get it up back on song
Yes sometimes breaking the orthodox rules works. In my previous house I had NBLs tucked fairly close to the corners of the short wall firing down the rectangular room . Theory said I should have the speakers well away from any corners and firing across the room, but this was just not practical and I did getaway with breaking the rules as they sounded great. Sometimes you just get lucky in your listening room, other times you struggle endlessly to achieve that optimal sound from your system.
I’ve owned the smaller Ovator 400s and 600s and with each upgrade the listening experience for me has improved. The 400s which are a third of the size of these 800s could never give the dynamics and scale that these present. Fortunately they don’t need to be blasted at high volumes to be appreciated. I suppose the analogy would be a small engine being over stressed at high speeds when a much bigger one can do the same speed with less effort.
It would be interesting to have a digital crossover and therefore bypass the SNAXO. It could result in something really nice. A triple output directly from the DAC!
If I recall my acoustic theory, a near field experience is not limited to monitor speakers but relates to all sound sources (see below). The implications for the casual listener are not immediately clear, except to say that in my experience the sound is “more immediate and engaging, particularly if the speakers are actively driven”. Of course, this is just my opinion.
The WHO website explains it thus: “The near field of a source is the region close to a source where the sound pressure and acoustic particle velocity are not in phase. … The near field is limited to a distance from the source equal to about a wavelength of sound or equal to three times the largest dimension of the sound source (whichever is the larger).”
A UK glosary of acoustic terms says this: Near Sound Field that part of a sound field, usually within about two wavelengths of a noise source, where there is no simple relationship between sound level and distance, where the sound pressure does not obey the inverse square law and the particle velocity is not in phase with the sound pressure.
I built some very large open baffle speakers a few years ago, I wasn’t allowed to keep them in the living room for long so they were moved to our third and small bedroom for further trials. The listening triangle decreased (by necessity) considerably, but the sound improved and suddenly the stereo image that I was missing in the bigger space appeared, rather like listening on headphones but more open.
I assume that the near field set up reduced the cancellation effects of the open baffle design from the ‘tight’ listening position. It was quite lovely if rather impractical. They were Also a little intimidating with dual 15” bass drivers, 8” mid range and dome tweeter per channel!
Welcome to the club Thomas Your room looks fantastic. I had the advantage of a house refurbishment which allowed for the works to be done at the same time, and to set the electrics on a separate spur to the rest of the house.
I have positioned the couch so that one seat is in the sweet spot. I either listen alone or there is one other person who is the actual listener, and I am just the companion for whom it does not have to be perfect (though it is kind of ok too. If the couch was a three-seater it would be kind of ok for a third person on the other side of the sweet spot)
Yes, I have often thought that: though the cost of (to my preference), triple Dave is somewhat stratospheric!
I do use a digital XO with my tri-amped system - and one benefit it offers is ease if tailoring to different speakers: crossover frequencies, filter slopes, phase, levels, and even some spare DSP capacity that can be used to tweak response in-room (within limits).
Having bought a Hugo TT I grabbed a couple of old bits of kit I had to hand, NAP140 & Wharfedale Diamonds, and set up a nearfield system. I had NEVER listened to one before, and I LOVE it. I am not a fan of headphones, but this system has some of the best facets of the headphones whilst retaining some of those of normally configured HiFi.
I can only imagine that with the care and attention you have paid to the setup the result is excellent.
I found that a more powerful amp improved the effect that my smallish room had on my quite large 4ft speakers and also improved greatly listening at lower levels.
This is a very interesting thread. I am using a bedroom for my music system which is roughly 12.5 feet by 11 feet. Speakers are Scansonic MB5 which are thin and tall but have very small drivers and a ribbon tweeter. I sit quite near around 6 - 7 feet from where the sound converges from the toe-in and I get a really nice sound stage, quite wide and deep. But this took quite a bit of time to achieve. Speakers are also are on thick ceramic tiles on the carpet and have vibrapods under the feet.