Network Cables - what's the best?

That’s the spirit! Delivery is amazingly quick, or it was when I ordered mine. Under 48 hours from Seattle to my house.

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Exactly the same experience here. I also tried removing the Pink Faun LAN isolator last weekend. It’s behind the Atom HE again after some switching back and forth. Both my wife and I like the sound better with it, as it all sounds less harsh.

:rofl::joy::rofl: Your eloquence is a joy. Love it.

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As I’m female and prefer jewellery and other shiny things, please can I have ‘polished jet black’ backgrounds?

Please, pretty please?

:raising_hand_woman:

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…and ordered. Hopefully they will be here by the weekend.

Excellent. I trust you went for a good colour. The one that goes to my NDX2 is a pale purple.

48 hours!

I live south of Vancouver so about 2 1/2 hour drive away from where they are made in Seattle, and mine took a week!

I just swapped out a Sablon 2020 with a 10 year old Meicord Opal…

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I think you mean Apophenia. :slightly_smiling_face:

pareidolia Is related to visual interpretation of objects and patterns. For example seeing the shape of an elephant in the crema of your coffee.

According to Wikipedia at least it’s “the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one sees an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none.” And:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia#Speech

While “Apophenia is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things.”

It’s all related :wink:

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auditory hallucinations are occasionally referred to as auditory pareidolia but the meaning is lost if you fail to use the modifying term auditory. As a combined term it is rarely used as it conveys to the reader that the user does not know that pareidolia refers to visual images and objects. :slight_smile:

Check out ncbi- lots of studies.

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Good Morning All,

Not another ethernet cable thread… As a result of the previous one I ordered a total of 3 BJC cables as interconnects.

I hold with the view that we are in a purely digital domain as far as this part of the signal’s journey is concerned and I don’t believe that the cable will have a significant impact on this. Routers/ switches etc. yes but not an ethernet cable.

Regards

Richard

Holding a view is all well and good. But supporting that view is a different matter.

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My home network is mostly BJC cat6. I can’t fault them. Excellent build quality, tested and certified. I have compared my BJC cat6 cables to a Meicord opal I’ve had for a while on the last leg from switch to NDS. They both make the system sound the same. Well balanced and detailed. I have considered trying a Tellurium Q Black Diamond streaming cable, but the cost is eye watering. I’m still letting a Catsnake 6a, floating shield, run in. That still makes the system sound the same as day one it was installed. It makes the sound heavy, lethargic and almost out of time. I’ll give it till the weekend to see if anything changes. If not, I’ll be moving it on. From now on, I’ll be sticking with BJC.

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But an auditory hallucination and auditory pareidolia are not necessarily the same thing. A hallucination can have no outside stimulus at all, or the relationship from stimulus to perception can be very remote. It seems to me that using pareidolia for visual and auditory emphasizes their similarity.

Jesus on toast really does look like a crude painting of Jesus, its not like I have a hallucination of Jesus although I see white toast. Somewhat similarly (but not quite), the Satan that I hear at least makes sounds in the backwards Beatles, while I can have a hallucination although there is silence.

So what would be the correct terms?

And apophenia is not the same as pareidolia because it is a wider term that includes pareidolia together with other phenomena.

“Auditory pareidolia ncbi” is good search term indeed (thanks) which should be pinned to the top of some threads.

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True. It applies more strongly the more extraordinary the claim is.

This is further confused by the differing thought process people use. I for one am a visual thinker. When thinking about things, I literally see patterns.

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My system uses a very similar run of BJC to my Chord 8switch, then Chord C-stream for the last metre to the streamer. I also have a patch of Catsnake 6a that I try from time to time and had it out the other day just for curiosities sake. Same experience as you with the Catsnake, heavy almost to the point of dull, slightly overblown bass and withdrawn midrange, which seems to result in a very flat musical portrayal. Most odd. The C-stream, to me, sounds nicely balanced, much more detailed and quieter. Like a layer of hash has been removed over all other leads I have tried.

I do find that It’s these little tweaks that can make or break how something sounds. I’m using a lowly little Node in a 500 system and find that this and a few other changes really have opened up performance well beyond the price. Changing the Node’s standard power lead for an old Naim one with a figure of eight plug soldered on was an immense and unexpected improvement.

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If the ethernet chain is a “purely digital domain”, how can routers and switches make any audible difference?

Excellent discussion given where I’m at currently. I’m thinking a section a fibre next or an LPS on my router but I’ve read this thread top to bottom and it’s given me much to dwell on regarding ethernet from wireless bridge to streamer.

Without straying even further OT I think it’s worth pointing out that the whole issue of how we think and how we learn was roundly taken apart about a decade ago. We believe we think a specific way and we believe we learn a specific way or have a specific style. However, when tested, that has been shown to be untrue in almost every case. I would describe myself as a slow learner. I need written explanations and to work through stuff myself. Having then taken part in an extension of said research I was taken aback to find that I learn better visually and through old fashioned repetition/practice. That’s the case for about 96% of people. Depressing that the whole learning style thing is so embedded in our educational thinking.

Similarly, I believe my vision deteriorates with stress. Most people with my eye conditions do because that was the accepted wisdom. Objective testing suggests not.

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