New Naim Radio stations plus a radio upgrade for all Naim streaming systems

Does anyone have current URL for Aardvark Blues FM internet radio ?

Like most iRadio stations it’s listed in the Naim app internet radio input. You just need to find the geographical location of the station and you’ll see it. No need to mess about with URLs.

I do not have IRadio on my Naim equipment hence I needed the URL for my Serviio server.
Found it eventually after much further digging - http://edge2.peta.live365.net/b77280_128mp3

Found some more flac radio stations
Pop - Chill Out Zone Plus (flac)
Pop - The Cheese (New Zealand) (flac)
Rock - Radio Paradise - main mix (New York, USA) (flac with metadata)
Rock - Radio Paradise - rock mix (New York, USA) (flac with metadata)
Folk - TMEFolk radio (Americana, Folk, Blues, Roots, Country) (flac)
Have the URLs if anyone wants them.

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If you could share the URLs got the pop stations I’d appreciate it @Paul_C

Mixed - Mother Earth Radio (Germany) (flac 24/96),
http://icecast3.streamserver24.com:18800/motherearth

Dance - Intense Radio (24/44.1 flac),
https://secure.live-streams.nl/flac.flac

Blues - Radio Bluesflac (flac),
http://streams.radiomast.io:80/radioblues-flac

Classical - Rondo Klasu Pro (Finland) (flac).
http://rondo.iradio.fi:8000/klasupro.flac

Pop - Chill Out Zone Plus (flac)
http://chillout.zone/chillout_plus

Pop - The Cheese (New Zealand) (flac)
http://thecheese.ddns.net:8004/stream

Rock - Radio Paradise - main mix (New York, USA) (flac)
http://stream.radioparadise.com/flac

Rock - Radio Paradise - rock mix (New York, USA) (flac)
http://stream.radioparadise.com/rock-flac

Rock - Radio Paradise - main mix (New York, USA) (flac with metadata)
http://stream.radioparadise.com/flacm

Rock - Radio Paradise - rock mix (New York, USA) (flac with metadata)
http://stream.radioparadise.com/rock-flacm

Folk - TMEFolk radio (Americana, Folk, Blues, Roots, Country) (flac)
http://ingest-ams.radiomast.io/tmefolk

Pop - Knixx.fm (Germany) (flac)
http://s1.knixx.fm:5347/knixxFM_dein_webradio_flac_studio_monitor_sound.ogg

Pop - Radio 2.0 (Bergamo, Italy) (flac)
https://vps.radioduepuntozero.it/stream.ogg (remove)

Pop - SuperStereo 1 (Chile) (flac)
http://198.204.228.202:8160/flac

Techno - Radio sputnik (house/techo) (Holland) (flac)
http://radiosputnik.nl:8002/flac

Pop - Hi On Line - mixed genre (Holland) (flac)
http://mscp2.live-streams.nl:8100/flac.flac

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Thank you

Hello, to me, however, apart from everything it seems absurd, we have been waiting for these Metadata for a long time and listening to songs especially of American jazz without knowing who the artist is is deplorable and takes away the pleasure of listening. I’m sorry but I don’t want to create problems with alternative and tiring methods. I wait for Naim to do his duty. Thanks and urgently. Hello.

Hi @anon35986639

Currently Naim supply 4 lots of streams on the 3 radio channels, so 12 streams in total.

On mp3(128 & 320k) and acc(320k mpeg4) we supply metadata. On the Flac streams we currently don’t as the backend playback system we use currently doesn’t support it and for a good reason.

Ogg/flac with shoutcast meta is a very fringe ‘standard’ as although its a generic rule to apply to any stream it is only gained acceptance in very limited hifi circles.

Ogg/flac but with multiple streams chained together more hits official standards… but most streamers out there will not handle it and will play 1 track then stop. Systems like Roon suffer from this limitation.

So at the moment we are trying to get a commitment from our provider to see if they will support either meta format. In practice they do a very good playback engine and I would prefer high quality audio and have wide support on many systems, vs compromised audio + metadata but limited compatibility.

Best regards

Steve Harris
Software Director
Naim Audio Ltd.

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FWIW I remember when Radio Paradise first released their .flacm streams (with metadata) and they issued a warning that they might be unreliable, and to use the regular .flac stream if this was the case. I added the .flacm streams to vTuner, and after a a few weeks of erratic metadata at first, they were completely reliable. Since your launch of HiDef stations, they have continued to work reliably and to show Now Playing info properly, so I guess that proves that it can be done.
@anon35986639 in the meantime have you tried Shazam?

I am making a further observation upon my earlier statement about how nice it was to flip on commercial-free mood music of an ilk I can listen to while eating meals at no apparent cost. That last bit is wrong, it cost me the price of a Naim Uniti Star, speakers and cables, as well as an iPad to store the Naim app for turning on and off and selecting stations that give you a sample of the sort of music you might like. I have been told that Roon Radio chooses music for you by sampling what you have listened to in the past and applying some algorithm to it to come up with more of the same, but if it is like the Netflix algorithms then all you get is same ol’ same ol’ without choice. Now LPs. When you bought vinyl records in the past, you paid one time for it and then could play and replay it as and when you wished. They never wear out. I have some vinyl records that are older than me (66 years) and still sound great. The problem is the cost of your playback system. When I started buying and playing records I used a console that my parents owned. When I moved onto my own playback system I couldn’t afford more than a couple of hundred dollars. Over the years, in order to improve the quality of sound played back from those ancient grooves, I have spent many times that amount. My current system would retail for a bit over £40K, and I still need to pull the record out, place it on the turntable, lower the arm, and turn the record over, but it is what I want to hear, when I want to hear it, and the sound quality (to me anyway) far exceeds any flac or hi-res streaming heard over my Uniti star (or Mu-So Qb 2nd gen either), but at what cost? So I guess it is a trade off; if I feel lazy and don’t care what specifically is playing, or how much it sounds like the last time I was listening, then streaming is fantastic. And, if I want to do the nostalgia thing and listen to Ella (or Jim Morrison) singing there in front of me in my music room, holding a glass of Scotch and staring into the warm glow of the valves while dressed in T-shirt and shorts, I turn on my hi fi system. Fortunately, since buying the Naim gear, I can do either.

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I still have a gen 1 Muso and ND5XS. As the FLAC streams play perfectly on my Windows machine via a browser I can’t get it to work on the Naims.

What is the reason why we can’t have it on gen 1 Naim gear?

Are there workarounds?

Tx,
Kurt

The 1st gen. streamers can’t play the HD stations as they use the slightly unusual stream format of FLAC in an OGG wrapper, which they are unable to support.

That’s a clear answer. Thanks! Besides commercial reasons, I don’t see any reason why they’re making things so complex.

Most (all) radio stations seem to use Ogg containers for their flac files (some experimented with Ogg/vorbis and opus) so maybe streamed radio requires something different to the flac streaming services. Ogg is generally well supported alas not on early Naim. An explanation from the broadcasters why not straight flac would be useful.

That’s also what I read on xiph dot org .
If it’s only to store music, an Ogg container doesn’t make a lot of sense. They even recommend using native flac in this case.

love this station…sound great

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As a recent convert to streaming myself you might consider pluging something like an NDX2 into your hi-fi system for a fairer comparison of the different sources. However I guess you wanted something for occasional listening in a different room

Thanks Steve that’s kind of half an answer. Anything digital seems to be dependent on many different elements provided by many different people all in a state of flux as they indulge in their agile project management. Those of us who have a bought Naim are not so concerned that your radio reaches all and sundry but maybe that’s a major part of your marketing drive. I haven’t heard of Ogg before except in the context of Australian woolly boots and I’m still no wiser as to what it is.

As to the meta data, it seems to provide the name of the piece being played but not the composer. So you don’t know whose piano sonata you’re listening to. This limitation seems quite widespread. In fact it’s impossible to get reliable comprehensive data in any field it seems.

I am wondering if you would know the answer to my question, please, if you don’t would you ask for me?

Was “Naim LP 111”, “The Music Collection Volume 3” LP “Re-mastered for vinyl by Steve Rooke (Abbey Road Studios)” recorded to analogue from a digital master source?

Thanks,