Should be absolutely fine, mine is!
Also it saves going into the dangerous minefield of ethernet cabling discussion threads. 
It’s coming, yes- we’ll keep everyone updated
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The JB Radio2 stream needs redirecting to http://69.64.52.71:10999/flac it connects on every other player and computer but not on a Naim player using the Naim app it just gets stuck at connecting.
Just as well that I only listen to Radio 3 - I always was easy to please. I suppose it comes years after owning a NAT01…!
What influence does “broadcast”equipment have on the quality of radio and streaming services?
Listening to the array of HD radio streams, Radio Paradise seems smooth and relaxed compared to the more punchy JB Radio2 . Earth Radio is much quieter than most and Naim Classical is invariably beautifully delivered ( Naim Equipment?)
All sound good but different in presentation. I have no idea of the nuts and bolts of streaming sources but hazard a guess that the quality of equipment used has a substantial influence on the received signal. Thoughts?
Jonathan
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Hi @bilposter
I setup the new Naim radio stations and went for a few fundamental principles:
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Keeping source material vs final broadcast at the same sample rate and clock domain. No sample rate converters in the mix.
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All encoders are latest standard and have large windows of audio exposed to them so they can use their allocated bitrate budget as optimally as possible. aka - the lower the latency, the quicker the encoders have to make decisions on how to encode the data and this can result in nasty artefacts.
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I wanted to use data wisely and get a really nice compromise of sound quality vs data rate. In the Naim FLAC streams they are typically averaging around 550-700kbit/sec, but capture the source material exactly and they’re pretty easy to uncompress at the player end. It’s not hugely demanding on a users internet connection as wanted these FLAC streams as accessible to as many as possible.
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Large buffers - it reduces the realtime demands of radio streaming at the compromise of latency. This also is good for playback as the player often has around 10-12secs of lossless audio always to play locally.
On the Naim system it all runs on a virtual broadcast & playback stack which runs in a specialist data centre in the Netherlands. There are no physical devices in the mix - the art of making it sound good is in the configuration and listening to it on good playback kit to sanity check theory vs practice works.
Best regards
Steve Harris
Software Director
Naim Audio Ltd.
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Thank you for the clarification Steve.
I would also assume many differences you hear are either in the different source material of the streams.
Or, if they use some kind of “mastering” in the process, the quality and parameters of that. E.g. they could play with loudness adjustments between tracks, loudness “compression” (+dynamics), overall loudness levels - or even putting some “equalizer” into the mix, e.g. for “loudness” effects (more bass/heights).
Thanks great news…does it start to-day?
Hooo didn’t notice …just found today amazing fifty stations around,including HD
JB Radio2 stream http://69.64.52.71:10999/flac plays fine in Roon but it still refuses to play in the Naim Radio stations but it will stream when it is added at vtuner but drops out frequently. I wonder if you are pointing at at http://199.189.87.9:10999/flac which is the old high def stream, which is set to end 31/12/2020?
Hi @Peter1480
Last week we moved to JBRadio’s new server, but we’ve been uptime monitoring both servers and there hasn’t been any significant down time on either.
From the UK the stream plays fine from the Internet Radio->HIDef Radio->JB Radio 2.
Maybe check to see if your network has any per device firewall rules. Also check if streamer is on fairly recent firmware (ie. from the last year).
Best
Steve Harris
Software Director
Naim Audio Ltd.
JB Radio2 …i play in Naim radio stations with no problem
Hi Steve, I’m using a Vigin Hub3 (at 210 Mbps) in modem mode and a Asus RT-AX88U router on which, for media streaming, the firewall is ‘trusted sites disabled’ (JB Radio2 and vtuner are in my trusted list). I’m on the most uptodate firmware on my NDX2 (wired not wifi) and using the Naim app on a 2 year old Ipad and the app is uptodate (also have the beta app, same problem). Nothing lost I’ll just keep using Roon. A couple of the others do n’t connect either (but work via Roon as a hidef streams) but Radio Paradise Rock mix is very stable 
Would you like me to raise a ticket?
A very timely update from Naim. Many thanks to all involved ,radio now sounds amazing.
Very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Hi @Peter1480
Raise a ticket with the support team, referencing this thread. Also in the report give the make, model and OS ver of the device that the Naim app is running on. I’ve got a feeling this could be more an app issue rather than a product side one.
Best
Steve Harris
Software Director
Naim Audio Ltd.
Thanks ticket raised, ticket number is 97519.
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Fantastic. I get FLAC quality streams to my NDX via Roon. Thank you Naim!
Once the metadata is added, it will be perfect.
May be a dumb question, but does anyone know if you can access these on a node 2i without Roon? It does steam the FLAC radio paradise.
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