I have a 282 and non-DR supercap and the sound is spectacular, a similar power supply for the 282 should be well within budget and will be a superb option and look after you very well into the future….
Another option would be to keep the Hicap to power your 282. The 140 can provide power to a preamp (unlike the 300). The 72/140 will sound better with the Hicap, but at least you would then have two functioning amps. Not a perfect solution, but perhaps a useful one in your situation, at least in the short term.
Thanks guys. The nap140 and hicap are currently being serviced, recapped and undergoing some upgrades. I suspect long term that’ll go with the 72/140 to my son in time. Talking to you guys it sounds like you’d probably recommend a non dr supercap over a hicap dr?
Yes, definitely - if the budget is there
Would be interested in peoples view of a SC ( non DR) over one or even two HCDRs.
Remembering that the SC has to be connected via snaics rather than a burndy on a 282. And yes, I use two HCDRs on my 282 and enjoy the lively sound it brings. The extra HCDR did bring an improvement over the one. But I bought both HCs at a significant discount from new.
Even a single HCDR has a huge transformer and capacitance inside it. Would a SCDR or non DR provide double what a single HC can provide in terms of power supply stability?
Really interesting range of opinions here…. From what I can gather to summarise as it’s unlikely (though possible) that I’m going to go for a 252 later, at present a supercap dr sounds a bit of overkill at £4K+ (second hand) The question of whether to go for a secondhand supercap 2 at around £1.8k ( which gives me the option of a 252 upgrade and supercap dr conversion) or whether to go for a hicap dr at around £1.5k is interesting.
I assume thats for a ‘new’ HiCapDR…? You might find a good deal on an ex-dem or pre-loved one, maybe, from a Naim dealer…?
YMMV, as always…
HCDRs new at £1500 would not have resulted in me getting 2 on my 282.
Both were bought at 6 to 9 months old, ex demo, mint ,boxed etc ( basically new and run in) for less than £950 each.
I had (and still have) no intention of going to a 252 ( although, never listened to one either!).
Just checked a Sept20 Naim price list - £1499. Ouch…
My own ‘2nd’ HC, was less than £400, pre-loved, from a Naim dealer, back in 2012. Better…
Yep. And I resented paying £450 for a mint/serviced 25 year old olive HC for my 72/140 system at the beginning of the year. But that’s ( or was ) ebay then.
Thats not a bad price, surely…? Serviced…? Mine wasn’t.
I was on the same journey couple of years back, I went
282/HCDR/300
282/HCDR/300DR
282/SC/300DR
252/SC/300DR
my plan is to get the SC to DR as some point in 2022, but I am in no rush
for me even SC non DR takes the 282 on to a new level of detail and music, so thats’ worth consideration
252 for me is my end game - enjoy the music and the journey
No it wasn’t really. And I picked it up reasonably locally too. I think the days if olive HCs unserviced being sub £250 is long behind us.
I have seen too many " serviced" by non naim/class A that I’d not pay the money for. Modded/improved/buggered with that is a shame.
I would rather buy ‘un-serviced’ - and then get it done properly - usually by Class A.
Agree. What I did with my other Olive gear.
The HC was sold (with receipt) of a Class A service 18 months before.
As it turns out the guy was only selling to fund his recent Olive SC for his 82. He was selling both his HCs. When I spoke to him a few weeks later he said he wished he had stayed with the 2 HCs as he heard no real improvement with the SC on his 82.
?? You mean ‘no’…?
Yes! Fat fingers.
Hi guys. Just wanted to say thanks for all the advice received on this forum. In the end I managed to get a non DR SC2 and I’ve got to say that it’s astounding with the 300Dr and 282. I was always amazed and happy with the old olive hicap,72,140 combo but this was an epiphany. I previously used to read Hifi reviews and wonder if what they were referring to ( musicality, timing, soundstage width) was just a load of pretentious technical speak. Now I know what everyone’s been talking about with all this PRaT stuff.
The problem is now one I listen to anything else just makes me sad….The other problem now is that Spotify which is so much easier to use for me now sounds appreciably worse than tidal or qoboz
Thanks again!
I think most people would be, in a very good way!! Seems rather a pointless reply to me …