Only 500 songs per playlist

I have thousands of cds ripped so is weird i only can add 500 songs in a playlist. Is it possible to add more the 500 songs to a playlist? Is it possible to merge two, or more, playlists?

Best regards.

Using which service or device?

Anyway, 500 is a HUGE playlist!

I believe the Naim app has a limit of 500 per playlist.

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This is correct. I had the same issue. That’s why I took a lifetime subscription for Roon. Roon doesn’t have a cap of 500 tracks.

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But Scarlatti wrote 555 sonatas!! :grinning:

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Although someone once explained, I still don’t see the point of playlists unless you’re getting music ready for a party or a holiday. Given that 500 tracks is probably over 25 albums, can you really predetermine that much music to play? Does it not work just to pick another album after one finishes? In the rare cases when I decide in advance all that I will play in a session I just queue them, but normally it is whilst playing one thing that the thought as to what to play next occurs.

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Added to that, I can barely find two albums at the same recording level. Every playlist I ever made had me diving for the volume knob in between albums or tracks.

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You are right. That’s another issue Focal/Naim should solve

I’ll do a research about Roon. Thank you.

So we’ve gone from 3 mins max on a 78, to 25 mins per side on a LP, 60 mins on a CD and now we’re concerned about a playlist being limited to 500 songs. Oh the agony!

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You can ask the app to play all your cds collection. It will be relatively the same as having a playlist so big as more than 500 albums.

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I’m not sure that’s technically possible. All the cheap players I have seen with volume normalisation just achieve it with dynamic range compression and make everything the same.

There’s no real way for an app or streamer to understand whether the recording level is low or whether it is intentionally mostly quiet.

Some UPnP servers like Asset let you apply per album/track volume adjustment. But to make it worse, then you’re applying digital volume control and that carries with it a number of technical issues and problems in the reconstruction.

I think it is simpler to either:

  • Play one album at a time or
  • Carefully curate a playlist of similar volume level tracks (which will almost certainly be less than 500).

One day, someone will figure it out properly, but it won’t be via an app.

What’s the difference between having the server apply digital volume control as opposed to setting the volume on my Nova? Technically speaking, don’t both alter the bits?

Not something I’ve ever looked into, because it’s not of interest to me, but I seem to recall reading about Replay Gain that could be set for albums, thence playing software with that enabled could adjust the level to whatever is set as unity or whatever. The question there is whether RG has to be assigned beforehand for each album by the individual, or whether there is some database that can be consulted.

No, all Naim amps use analogue volume control, albeit ‘digitally controlled analogue’ in the Unitis.

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On Asset, you set it on a track basis.

But it makes no difference if you use an analogue amp like a 282.

You possibly can use the variable out on an NDX2 or ND555 but that defeats the point (unless you think preamps add nothing which is fair enough - not something I find to be true though).

Not to mention, evaluating the recording level versus dynamic range is highly time consuming and subjective.

JRiver has an Analyze Audio feature that can be used to provide that stores the information needed for volume levelling. By default the analysis is done on importing or ripping tracks. However, I do not actually turn on volume levelling.

(The analysis also calculates dynamic range and some other things beyond my ken.)

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