Radiohead To Perform Live Again

Late to this thread. An interesting read. I’m maybe about to disillusion a number of people. Sorry, not sorry.

Love at least five Radiohead albums. Seen them live twice. They were very good indeed rather than “great” on both occasions. I’ve little inclination for nostalgia on the whole but if you’ve not seen them then, yeah, by all means do… but…

Last weekend I was on a train - I’m skimping on detail here for several reasons - and sat with two lovely guys who promote gigs of varying sizes amongst other things. One has promoted Radiohead gigs. One it turns out had communicated with me previously over accessibility to a specific gig. A brilliant and non-stop conversation, which ranged far and wide.

Let’s put aside the promoter consensus that Radiohead as people, and Yorke in particular, are known in the industry to be “d@cks”. A view I’d heard previously from the person who used to run Ticketmaster in North America but fleshed out last weekend with even more specific and pretty bleak anecdotes. It’s interesting and shocking but not really news. I’ve no doubt the majority of the music I love has been made by people I probably would not love if I met them.

The more interesting thing for me was the clear statement during this train journey that it is well known in the industry that the only reason these Radiohead gigs exist is for money. Literally nothing else. As fans you don’t need me to explain the complexity of the bands relationship with a specific country since a particular 2017 gig. Both huge internal tensions and external pressure. Suffice to say that has recently come back to haunt them big style. A number of companies who have relationships with them have withdrawn in the face of various complex pressures. Successful musicians often rely on the sponsorship of everything from cables, strings, sticks, lighting etc. to fund their lifestyle absent money from sales and touring.

If you’re Radiohead then you can’t really produce new product because many of your internal tensions are not solvable given who you’re married to, what you’ve said and so on. You could tour but then those same tensions have quietly reduced the number of places you can actually play. Not really a surprise you’re not getting beyond a small number of nearby European countries. Something of a surprise to learn that only one promoter would deal with them.

Who’s going to sponsor your gear when the some of the big guys can’t live with your views. Equally, how are you going to fund the “side projects” which have actually been your bread and butter for the last decade. If you’ve been paying attention you’ll quickly realise that’s why all collective spirit goes out the window on their collabs outside the band.

And yes, some people, as a result of this don’t have quite the personal wealth they had even a year ago. In one instance, nowhere near.

So, no, new product bar live recordings and associated cross marketing, most unlikely. Not impossible. Things aren’t irretrievable yet. And, yes, this tour has been very quietly about the devastating cost of certain members views on personal fortunes.

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Nothing to report from the Copenhagen gig…it got cancelled mid-way through this afternoon.

Gutted, especially as we can’t make the rescheduled gig on the 15th.

I have one Radiohead Album - OK Computer, listened again to it the other day. My god it’s still bad!

Rule 1 Never try to meet your heroes.

Actually I have met quite a few Jazz legends, when I did gig photography, and most were charming people. It is usually the Second and Third division artists who are “difficult”.

Radiohead probably have big ego’s like many people at the top of their game, but they have been it seems unfairly shunned by an industry who are afraid of a vociferous minority who want them cancelled. Who cares if they play in Israele?

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With respect, I didn’t mention the country or the politics as I wouldn’t wish to have the thread closed. So, we just acknowledge that that’s the issue, that it’s done them huge financial harm regardless of our own perspectives, that it’s the sole reason they’ve done these gigs… and then move on.

All these reunion tours are done for filthy lucre.

But I suspect most the members of these mega groups could retire and live better than most of us mere mortals.

Music is a suburb way of breaking down barriers between peoples, let’s hope it stays that way.

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Did you see them at South Park in Oxford before the name change to Radiohead? Its a bit hazy, my halls of residence were next to the park.

Well some truth certainly, apparently Mark Knopfler was told “reform Dire Straits quickest $500m dollars” but he remains resolute.

The same people that plead poverty for musicians having to live of scraps from the streaming giants then criticise a band for trying to do things their own way.

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Mind I wish MK would pull DS together for one UK/European tour with the original line up, and draw it it to a close on the Sunday night at Glastonbury. Lot of money for the various causes he supports.

I must say, I think it does diminish bands this latter-year revival business.

Go hard and go young, like Sid, Jimi, Kurt etc etc

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Totally agree. It’s very rare that anything good comes out of a reformed band.

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Apart from the fantastic concerts that some of us have been lucky enough to see

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Aye, fair play.

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I consider “Protest Songs” by The Specials to be the closest anyone has come. There’s an argument for the new Pulp album too.

Live? Forget it. You can’t recreate the past. Artists can play their songs but that doesn’t make any concert fantastic. They’re usually just a fscsimilie, a ghost of a memory. Nice for some people to get to hear things they may have missed first time around but the experience is an entirely different thing and kidding yourself that you’re really “seeing” that artist is delusional.

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Getting v confused here Mike. Pretty sure that I ‘saw’ Radiohead and that they played real songs, not facsimiles?

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We’re off to see a facsimile of Robert Plant at the Royal Festival Hall this evening…

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For me Robert Plant is one of the best examples of a great way to carry on in the “life after”. It’s all about the music; some fantastic partnerships, great songs yet a willingness to play the old Zep numbers. Still electrifying live.

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Having seen him quite a few times in various guises over the years I’d agree but it seems we are deluding ourselves :blush:

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I do.