And what do we think our 100,000 Roon users are playing music on?
Ah okay, you’re taking about individual devices I thought you meant products, Naim Atom being one rather than 20,000.
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Personally I would not use it with linn, assuming it is the organik version. I think linn does its own upsampling to dsd? HQplayer is great but only with a Dac that benefits from what it does.
It depends on what HQPlayer filters and the types of music that I listen, and I usually disable Space Optimisation when HQPlayer is in use.
IIUC Linn Space Optimisation is supposed to adapt the sound to your room, I assume doing something a bit like room correcting convolution plug-in filters that can be applied with Roon. Does SQ player do that as well? (Or are these filters different reconstruction filters, which is quite another thing?)
I think someone here already explains to you what HQPlayer is and what it does, IIRC.
Yes, I understood that, but from your mention of SQ Player here I wondered if it also did room correction. If not then it is not comparable to Linn SO or Roon with room convolution filters, not automatically getting closer to reproducing the original sound in the room. However I recognise that its DSP tweaks might hit the spot for some people with some systems if they find one that suits them, or even multiple for different music types, as you allude, which could be beneficial for someone with anon-neutral system, though sounds like a bit of a faff if you swap frequently between different music styles.
It is not “DSP tweaks” it is upsampling, similar (but more complex apparently) to the Chord M-Scaler.
It does have convolution filter functionality similar to Roon for room correction, though I have not tried it.
Personally, I use it as a set and forget thing. In other words I pick the settings and use it for all music.
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I have never recognised the slightest sound difference between my CD player (Gryphon Scorpio) and Roon (via NDX2) which runs through a server, my dealer has built for me and which was much cheaper than the Nucleus. Switched back and forth between the two sources while listening to the same recording. Really no perceptible difference.
Let’s be clear, you asserted that my post was speculation. I broke it down for you and asked you to clarify which bits. You didn’t/couldn’t. Instead, you’re back to the same assertion dressed up in different clothes. Very poor. I won’t be responding further. You’ve made an assertion and it didn’t stick because it can’t. My post was largely factual with an opinion expressed at the end. I do apologise for the fact you have struggled with the intrusion of reality.
Feel free to have the last word. Then come back in five years and let’s see who was right. Bookmark my post above. Doubt you will. It would look terrible embarrassing of my fairly straightforward logic, quietly supported in the industry by those who have long seen it playing out as I described, turned out to be right.
I disagree. Roon is the ultimate niche product - it’s value proposition is that of a musical content aggregator. Yes, not many people have multiple music subscriptions plus their own content libraries - but those that do see the value and appreciate the functionality of Roon.
They’re going in the right direction - consolidation of multiple data sets and intelligent discovery based on the aggregate.
Would you be willing to pay for an app that gave you a consistent UI/UX to aggregate all the messages you receive on your phone? Joining WhatsApp, iMessages, Teams, etc all in one place?
Not opining on the commercials, market size, or pricing here, but the functionality.
That’s the point though isn’t it.
It’s a “value proposition” for “not many people”. That is the exact point.
Harmon cannot possibly have bought it to expand what it aggregates as there just isn’t that much demand out there. They likely bought it to either grab what is there for themselves as a niche thing alongside the rest of their offer, or, they intend to integrate the popular bits and then kill it. Anything else would be a major and slightly bonkers departure from sensible business practice.
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Yeah. I read the beginning and end of the thread and missed al lot of the in-between. My previous post was off-topic.
I guess the implication I can see is that Harman Int’l now gets access to a shedload of data from a lot of subscribers that tells them what they play (interesting) and what they play it on (way more interesting if you’re an equipment mfg…)
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Mike - completely agree.
BTW - was the purchase price disclosed?
No idea. Nothing in the press release but then press releases are not intended to contain facts.
All for naught then. Management teams, boards, etc, don’t approve deals without business cases. And if there’s no mention of the price, it’s a little hard to speculate what Harman’s intention is.
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Implications? Easy. Money. Just like Naim being bought.
Martin
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Its only ever money lol.
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you wonder if they’re thinking about making a move into car / portable audio solutions. an oem like Ford, Toyota, etc. paying a license fee for Roon in a car could be big
I can see various possibilities, including your scenarios. It will be interesting to see what happens - but that is only as an observer. Committed Roon users will either like the future development, or curse it. I hope for the sake of those with lifetime subscriptions it is the former.
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