Ruminations on university, life and revisiting your first system

By 1983/4 I’d moved into a bedsit at the top of a three storey house in Leicester. PhD in the day, student union bar in the evening. It’s how I bought my first Naim. It’s also where I met Mrs HH - her dad said she’d come to no good working in the bar.

This picture for me really captures the time. Telly on breeze blocks, flowers in an empty Paul Masson carafe, super stylish gas fire. The Linn is sitting on a wooden stand made by Sound Advice in Loughborough. They made a few before moving on to the Tripod.

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There is a very similar gas fire here in the dining room, in the house when we moved in, and still in place some 47 years later…

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My parents had something quite similar until the day they died, as did my in-laws. My own parent’s were not well-off people, but my wife’s parents certainly were. They could have had anything they wanted (within reason) but they weren’t extravagant with their money. The fire did them just fine.

Anyway it’s very brave of you to post a selfie, albeit an ancient one. It’s funny how one can tend to form a mental image of how one think’s someone might look. You aren’t what I expected at all. You look almost human there! :zany_face:

I dare not post a selfie as I’m afraid it may traumatise some members.

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Had the same fire when I was very young birth home.
I think it was called Sahara or Savana if I remember :scream:
Fire glow bulbs in the bottom.

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It is, but I’m not aware of any other university (except perhaps Oxford - I don’t recall although I did read their prospectus) imposing such a rule. It’s taking it too far IMO, and seems to have more in common with a military establishment than a civilian place of learning. When I read their prospectus it became clear to me that Cambridge has many traditions and rules that seemed entirely alien to me and sought to mold students into their particular concept of a well-rounded individual. Nothing to do with what one was studying and I found it objectionable.

PS. One of our maths teachers in the sixth form who was only young himself ( about 25 or so) once told us the following when we were just on the cusp of taking our ‘A’ levels:

“When you are choosing a university make sure you pick one that is so far from home that you won’t easily be able to keep going back. That way you will get more involved in university life. You will never have a period in your life when you are surrounded by so many intelligent people so it’s important to make the most of it”. Wow!

Also further words of wisdom from him: “I had a gap year and I worked on the bins. It’s great to meet some different kinds of people from the sort that you are used to mixing with” Wow!

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Can’t be sure but that looks like an old Grundig or similar reel to reel tape recorder on the extreme left with a spare tape reel on the fireplace. Am I right?!

It’s an internet pic cropped I’ll post the full image.

Not my mum or cat :rofl:

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Great nostalgic picture and a lovely lady!

When I completed my electrical apprenticeship in 1981 I bought this Toshiba SM-4750 with matching speakers and it served me very well until after working part time in the offshore oil and gas industry, since 1983, I commenced full time employment in the industry in 1985 and then bought a Technics System 88 with a Technics SL-PJ-11 CD Player and a set of Celestion SL6S Speakers to go in my first house I bought.

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Great memories, thanks for starting the thread.

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My very early setup.
I Spy :wink:

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Reminds me of my first bit of ‘HiFi’. An Elizabethan 200. Lucky enough to have parents who saw music as a good thing. We also had a gas fire.

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That is almost word for word what my mother said to me. She herself travelled from Sheffield to Kings College in London, first (and to this day only) member of her branch of the family to go to university.

I had no appreciation at the time what a wrench it was for her to see me go. At that time, she was a single parent, my father having died unexpectedly 3 years earlier and my sister was at med school in London. Only when my own son went off 2 years ago did I understand how painful it can be for the parent and how well my wife did to hold it together until the very moment we headed off. It was easier though when my daughter went a year later. We’ve just seen my son off for the third time since he rows ahead of term officially starting. We’ll see him again in a few weeks when we drop off the daughter as their universities are about an hour apart.

Though we drive our two (only for the big load) back in the 80s there was no possibility of me getting a lift from the Essex Riviera down to Exeter so what I could carry, I took, on the bus, Fenchurch St line, tube and then the intercity from Paddington.

I did get a Pioneer ‘ghetto blaster’ with FM and cassette (AM never used) as well as phono line in/line out sockets (also never used). I rigged up a shoulder strap and it travelled in its packaging. I still have it to this day but really should get rid of it. Nobody has used it in decades but I remember it pumping out the Eurythmics, Leo Sayer, Peter Gabriel, Frankie and adverts for Trago Mills and St Bridget’s Garden Centres so it holds memories for me. I might add that having listened to the Eurythmics ‘Sweet Dreams’ on my Pioneer, a few months later I was standing a few yards only from Annie Lennox as they performed in Exeter’s Great Hall. She was bl**dy fantastic.

Luckily I fell in with people who were into Rega, Creek, NAD, Mission, Kef, Monitor Audio and eventually naim. It’s like the other brands were the gateway drug leading to that one. You get lured in with digestive biscuits and coffee and before you know it you’re spending thousands on active systems and high copper interconnects!

Back then we would sit around listening to whatever was new and where it would lead us. So 90125 had been released for example and that led to someone putting on Going For The One, then Tormato and before long you’re elbows deep in Close to the Edge waiting for the sing-along opportunity.

I did manage to save for a Planar 3, Creek and Monitor Audio system but it stayed home. I still have the Rega which is now 42.

My daughter has expressed a wish to have a record player, and to experience the ‘joy’ of sifting through vinyl in a record shop and taking a record on and off so maybe that can happen this year. She does now have space.

Both kids however are well versed in all music it seems. My son introduced his friends to King Crimson and CCR, my daughter knows at once Sammy Davis, Tears for Fears and the Beatles for example. None of my doing.

I do worry though that they are missing out because their experience is typically one of ear pods and solo enjoyment. They also have competing entertainment that I never did - more than 4 channels of TV, the chance to watch programming wherever there is a screen and internet and if I’m honest, degree content that seems to me harder than what I did.

I do wish I could catch up with two university friends in particular who now owe me thousands because of my hifi habit, but we lost touch. I’m suspicious that at least one of them could be a member of this forum!

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Brilliant selfie @HungryHalibut it looks like you had a very serious system even back then - I think I see NAC32-5, SNAPS, NAP250 if I’m not mistaken, so you must have put a lot of hours in at the union bar to save for that!!

This has turned into a lovely thread of reminiscence and I’m really enjoying it! There’s nothing like wallowing in some nostalgia from time to time!

I must confess that I didn’t spend as much time at Uni over the weekends as I should have done owing mainly to meeting a girl from back home at Easter in my second year. I suppose that long distance love affair felt romantic at the time - a lot of passionate embraces and sad goodbye’s on railway platforms! I certainly can’t hear Del Amitri’s “Sometimes I just have to say your name” without thinking about the hours I spent on trains back to Liverpool with my Sanyo Walkman playing endless Del Amitri and Deacon Blue songs longing to see her! She came down to Brum too of course a lot, but it probably meant I tended not to join in with the Uni crowd as much as I should have done.

Still, they were happy times indeed!

JonathanG

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Ah yes, I’d forgotten the argument with my father about why I wasn’t allowed to take his Laskys headphones to university. :rofl:

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OK I’ll come clean and admit I read Maths and Physics at Cambridge and can tell you that at no other time did my life feel less like I was in a military establishment, and my school had a compulsory CCF so I’d had some experience of the military mind. As for tradition, studying physics at the Cavendish lab, where so many winners of the Nobel prize from JJ Thompson to Crick and Watson did their research, celebrated a tradition I was very happy to embrace. And moulding students? If so, the student protests, lockouts, sit-ins and the like in my time and before showed that must have been a complete failure. And what about the succession of mould-busting comedians who came out of the Footlights and changed the media in years to come?

I’m afraid the picture you paint is so far removed from my lived reality as to be unrecognisable. We’ll have to disagree and move on, with apologies for thread diversion.

Roger

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It can be good advice and obviously your mother knowing you as she would have done must have thought it would be best for you. But as general blanket advice for everyone it complelely ignores that fact that it just isn’t the way some people want to live their lives. Teachers and other ‘officials’ back then seemed to adopt the attitude that they know what’s best for you better than you do. It wasn’t proferred simply as advice but rather as absolute truth that you disregarded at your peril. I don’t know if it’s still like that though. Perhaps things have changed these days and with the internet etc. I think young people are now far more clued up about their options and far more confident about what they want.

You have the experience of the place and I don’t. I’m in no position to disagree with you! It’s great that you enjoyed it so much. You make some good points about protests and some of the unconventional people who graduated from there. The impressions I got from reading the prospectus and from what I had seen on TV of the place were of course just that - impressions. Not a result of first hand experience as in your case. But anyway rightly or wrongly I didn’t feel comfortable with it, hence my decision not to proceed.

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PS. One of our maths teachers in the sixth form who was only young himself ( about 25 or so) once told us the following when we were just on the cusp of taking our ‘A’ levels:

“When you are choosing a university make sure you pick one that is so far from home that you won’t easily be able to keep going back. That way you will get more involved in university life. You will never have a period in your life when you are surrounded by so many intelligent people so it’s important to make the most of it”. Wow!

Also further words of wisdom from him: “I had a gap year and I worked on the bins. It’s great to meet some different kinds of people from the sort that you are used to mixing with” Wow!

Seems reasonable to me. And I’m an OU graduate so no axe to grind either way.

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It was a 42, you can tell by the tractor wheel controls. I loved working in the bar, free beer and a great social life.

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…you might not have passed the exam!!