SN2 vs SN3

I couldn’t say one way or other. If you’re concerned, talk to your dealer and have it checked out.

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Thank you, Richard.

Finally, the device has only 4 days out of the box, and I have already commented it to my dealer, just in case things keep going in that line…

A greeting.

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Can you explain a little more about this? If a Naim amp shuts down when driven hard, it’s usually the thermal cutout that it set to trigger if it reaches 70 degrees C. I’m no expert, but if a Tuner (or any source) displays an overcurrent message I would question whether you have things connected properly. Maybe you can describe exactly how everything is connected?

Biamping may well help, although whether you end up with a good enough amp to do justice to those speakers is another matter. A 250 certainly has more clout than a 200, although being a fully regulated amp, it may be more prone to falling down than a 200 if it’s still not enough. Best talk to your dealer, I think.

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Hi, @ChrisSU.

No, what happened is that it stopped subtly and started flashing the tuner button, which, as described in the manual, is due to a “excess current” failure…

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The connections are perfect: NDX2 out via DIN to Stream DIN input (Input 3), CD Nad out to RCA CD input (Input 1), TT out to Phono RCA input (Input 5), and subwoofer in to SUB output, there is no more.

I’m really satisfied with the SQ provided by the SN3, I don’t want to go acummulating boxes, I need a SUB RCA output, and the 260W in biamp mode should be enough, just like the SN2 or SN3 bare and alone are, to drive the speakers properly 97% of the time that do not go from 80 dB and to drive them without getting disheveled when, very occasionally, we may really want a little more SPL (never above 100dB, which is already a barbarity so that the neighbors, although distant, can call the police).

Cheers.

In all probability the K6 is presenting a tough load on the SN3. I have looked online, but can’t find a real detailed test tone breakdown of the K6 regarding impedance versus frequency.
I would have thought maybe the tweeter is pushing the SN3 over its comfort zone.
In which case if you were to consider biamping with a 250DR - you could try that first running the tweeters.
Seems counter intuitive, more power should go to the big woofers moving a lot of air, although that K6 has an exotic tweeter and sharing crossover duties with that midrange unit.
I’m not surprised the SN3 is flashing its little give up flag.

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Bi-amping with two different designs of poweramp? One regulated and the other not.

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New avatar? Same strange like a sect mask :grinning:. :+1:

Yes, clutching at straws on the logic offered here.

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I was long thinking the old one was a bit full on, perhaps other contributors subconsciously thinking my postings being the same - with warts and all and a few teeth missing.
So I decided a more louche side shot keeping still the toby jug theme. But yes, I still recommend looking up what a TOBYJUG is or was…

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UPDATE…

For now, after the overcurrent failure shock, the SN3 is settling beautifully and closer and closer to the SN2 sound, although nuanced: it is now playing more “into the face” or “forward”, close to the memory I maintain of SN2, but with a better bass, more full and nuanced, which gives it more speed and a wider soundstage.

Cheers.

At the moment only assessing it, but the possibility certainly moves away as the NDX2 and, above all, the SN3 settles down. We’ll see…

Have you repeated the high volume conditions that tripped it up before?

Seems like few persons have done the SN2 to SN3 route so far based on feedback in this thread related this matter? Can we have more new user experiences based on this upgrade please? :slight_smile: Are they available somewhere else?

Yes, but really every time it needs to turn the pot less to turn up the volume. I don’t know, let’s say that when out of the box and with a few hours of operation, it took more potentiometer to turn the volume up, it needed more travel of the potentiometer; gradually, it goes up more volume with less travel, so that it now reaches well the 85dB-90dB over 10 o’clock, and goes up without major problems until 11 o’clock (I have not tried to raise it more, neither it is really needed, already sounds high enough, rather more than at the beginning). In this sense, the pot pattern of SN2 is also becoming more and more apparent. No fault has been repeated, not due to excess current, or thermal excess, or anything. I guess it must have been that it was still very tender and barely settled. I also notice how the sound opens and settles, and it sounds more and more… Wow!

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Slamdam, why do you want to upgrade when you just bought the SN2? Have you gone to a dealer and had a listen? Just curious as to why you want to make the upgrade.

I am waiting to listen to a SN3 but I have not been in a hurry since the dealers in the US are just receiving there inventories. The reviews have been very good but a couple have mentioned that SN2 owners may not be in a rush to make the update. I do not use a TT so there is no incentive there, so it would have to be huge improvement in the sound. The other issue would be the resale value of the SN2. The SN3 is selling at least a $1000.00 less then the SN2. I hope more people who take the upgrade path comment on their experiences.

Good luck with your decision.

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Well I have the opportunity on a seconhanded already and it might be better than SN2. Simple as that :slight_smile:

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Have 2 :sunglasses:

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Hi @newcomer, so it looks as though you may have been turning the volume up too soon in a similar way to over revving a new engine in a car!
I hope that you now find your ‘cheap’ NDX2/SN3 front end/amp plus ‘expensive’ speakers is a great combination! :+1:

I personally think that you have a great system and can now concentrate on the music.

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I still have my SN1 so if I buy the SN3 I will be one of a few owning the whole SN range :laughing:

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@Blackbird

Buy it!

We need that Ultimate Supernait Shootout review!

:smiley:

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