If he doesn’t then for a £90investment (miniDSP UMIK-1) and repositioning the sub he could be a LOT happier!
Dear Christopher,
The speakers are free standing about 3m apart on Celestion stands filled with lead shot, as I had no sand at the time to make an appropriate mix. The Naim equipment is located in a IKEA TV stand that has eight compartments. Two high and four wide with a 50" plasma mounted in the middle. The speaker stands are about 400mm plus away from the TV cabinet on each side toed in to form the sweet spot on the couch.
The TV was meant to be used for saved movies on the Apple TV module streamed from the iMac.
Anyhow long story short, Shelley now enjoys Foxtel in the open plan dinning room, kitchen on her 65" 4K TV.
You have done your home work if you found the pick of the music room. No the room has not changed and Shelley uses it to dry out her washing when the sun is not shinning, which is all of winter.
As the speakers are free standing and not inside anything I did not think it mattered. It is night time now and I will try and take a photo tomorrow.
The TV is turned off at the mains and has not been used since our son’s last visit to play some nostalgic Playstation One games on a modern replica.
The TV is also meant to be used for friends whom wish to sit up late at night and go through the selection of old vampire flics and other movies. No porn, just Clint Eastwood and golden 80’ movies. Plus Harry Potter, The Lord of The Rings and the Hobbit in HD when friends kids visit too.
I have thought of dismantling it. But I think it is here to stay. On the rear wall is a bookcase loaded with CDs. By rear I mean behind me about two metres, maybe three.
With regards to Subs, my dealer recommended the REL T/7x or the REL T/9x which according to the manual I downloaded are to be placed behind the speaker stands where there is enough room. I do intend to ask my dealer about this as there is a cable that connects on other amplifiers to the rear posts on the back of the amplifier. In my case with a Nait XS 2 there is no such beast as far as I remember and as I am using 5 metres of NAC speaker cable x 2. So tentatively I was considering connecting the Subs to the rear of the speakers.
Then after reading other forum posts it appears there is a recommendation to using two Subs. Two REL T/9x Subs come in at $2,400 AUD each. If I go down this path, I think I have come a full circle and would be better off purchasing stand alone speakers, book shelf or floor standers.
By the way for some humour, Mrs. Mitch popped her head in and reminded me the answer is NO!
Happy wife, happy life.
Warm regards,
Mitch.
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I don’t. I followed Totem’s instructions. It’s their speakers and I assumed they know what they are doing. Anyway, room limitations being are what they are, that set up works and I’m happy. They are dialled back quite low and I like the overall benefits for both movies, music concerts and music in general. For the odd music recording I can just turn it off, but at the moment it seems to benefit. I initialling got it for LME’s in movies.
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I received an email from a Aussie website and shop that I purchase vinyl from time to time. I am wondering if anybody has thoughts on this deal and speaker please?
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Mitch.
Lucky you! My nearest dealer of any description, not necessarily with things I’m interested in, is a ferry trip and drive, minimum 4 hours (maybe a bit over 2 1/2 by plane and taxi, with no carrying capacity for taking gear or returning with purchase). Last trip I did trying speakers took 2 1/2 days, and included something over 800 miles of driving, a return ferry trip (one direction overnight) and an overnight hotel stay) I took my speakers with me and auditioned in 3 places.
Sounds like an opportunity for you to open a HiFi shop!
Without turntables of course 
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A friend and I once mused over the thought of opening a hifi shop, and how we would then be able to indulge in all sorts of wonderful gear, enjoying ourselves all day. (He’d have become the TT specialist.) Of course the reality is rather different, and we had no idea that hifi shops actually had to buy the stock upfront, naivelyassuming it was just sale or return from the manufacturers.
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They are Big. I don’t think you could live with them for thirty years. They are a bit forward sounding… not my cup of tea.
Also they are also an awkward size. Too big for monitor type stands, and too small to be floor standing. That said they were the Snizzle in 1975
I’ve actually been involved with opening a hifi store. You need about $250,000. cash You get a secured loan from a bank to fund inventory. Your main upfront cost is building out the store, salaries, insurance…etc
Then once it’s done you have to sell stuff to audiophiles who are without a doubt the most difficult, time wasting, cheap ass XXXX, Reptiles that will come in suck your time then try to compare your retail prices with Audiogon then buy it online. I hold anyone who in this day and age in the highest esteem if they can run a retail audio shop and make a living
Retail Audiophile Customer
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Not for me!
I would like to thank everyone for the comments, suggestions and well researched opinions. Shelley took the dogs for a walk this morning and I then had the opportunity to play a CD by Silvie Paladino, titled “Take my breath away”. This is the first time I have heard this CD in the Nait CD5 XS and it was breath taking. I was quite emontional.
After going around in circles wishing for a better set up. I am back where I started. I am (if you can) in love with speakers and NAIM equipment. Shelley was laughing at me as I would get the tape measure out and measure where which speaker would fit the space. After visiting my Naim dealer’s shop online I found my self dreaming about Focal Kanta No. 1 speakers. Then reading the sales burst, it recommended that some would like Subs to go with their Kanta speakers. I moved onto Kanta No. 2 speakers that do not require Subs, out with the measuring tape again and realised it would be a tight fit but doable.
Then this morning I played the CD and as I said, I fell in love all over again with what I have and can afford. Subs might be still on the menu as and when the Celestion speakers do die I will be able to use them with the new speakers whatever they maybe.
I do have one LP that has on my system some distortion and I will listen to it at the dealer’s shop in a couple of weeks after the Covid lock down ends to determine if it is my speakers or amplifier that is having an issue or, it is what it is and the LP is at fault. The same distortion can be heard on headphone on the Nait XS 2 amplifier, though appears less apparent. Or so it seems. Anyhow off topic and I am hoping it is the album.
I suppose my next post will be on the pros and cons of an XS 2 over a SN3 or a 202/NAP200DR/250DR. More money I do not have.
The bottom end did not bother me today as the vocals were so beautiful, on top of the piano, acoustic guitar and double bass. You could even hear Silvie’s lips smack quietly as she finished words with a letter p or d, one could almost taste the moistness of her lipstick lips. Definitely lost in the moment.
Thank you everyone. I hope you have a lovely weekend.
Mitch.
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The way the SL6Si are constructed (film caps in the crossover, cast neoprene cone termination), if the cone surrounds aren’t exposed to direct sunlight, that could well be a very long time!
They really are quite magical in that way aren’t they - the delicacy in voices and small scale stuff is such a strength; for that, there are relatively few speakers can match them even now. They have a most unusual sound signature, but on the right material it’s completely beguiling.
Yes. Don’t spend the Money on Subs until you get the new Main speakers sorted. Believe me you’ll be quite surprised what say a pair of D2R can do!
Magical just like ProAc’s! just as Hungry Halibert , seakyacker , and several other here are ProAc owners and their main thing
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I agree as well. I have a pair of D2R and lack of bass isn’t an issue for me (my room, setup, ears etc). I do recommend(ProAc does as well) a heavy stand to get the best out of them.
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I’ve taken this journey. I was not happy with the bass produced by my speakers (2.5 way floor standers) and added a JL Audio sub. I was happy with that . . . for a while. The sub integrated pretty well, and when adjusted appropriately added just that lower octave without being intrusive or boomy.
Two things. FIrst, after a while, I got tired of looking at it. A big black box in my room. Second, I found that from album to album, I really wanted different sub settings. Mine did not have a remote and I didn’t really feel like going over to it to adjust it often. But even if I had a remote, I think I’d have gotten bored with it just the same. So I traded in the sub and the floor standers and got different floor standers (and moved up to a 300DR amp at the time) and that solved what I was looking for.
One does see VERY high-end systems with one or often two subs. It’s just not for me I decided. The mass of hardware that it brings into the listening room being one of the big issues but far from the only one.
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The sub I find interesting is the Wilson Benesch Torus.
That is an impressive bit of kit. Thank you for mentioning it IB.
Mitch.
For opus,
I hope these photos turn out. It is winter here in southern Victoria Australia. Please excuse all the blankets drying out in th music room.
I’m trying to figure out what all the stuff is. Do you have kids?