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What you described is the difference between white bread and bread made with whole grains, such as wholemeal and others, nothing to do with sourdough, which is simply a means of leavening using wild yeast rather than cultivated yeast.

Or the below

And for those to whom it doesn’t matter?

Sourdough is just a trendy clump of hard bread.

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It was good of Eric Clapton to attend :wink:

yes

Trendy for thousands of years.

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Normal for thousands of years, trendy now. :smiley:

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Maybe in your part of the world.

Ooh, stings. :grinning:

:joy:.

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But it is nothing to do with sourdough, but the flour. More correctly all bread other than made with white flour contains those things, do it is misleading to suggest that it is the sourdough responsible.

Grew up in the 60s. Bread then was Mother’s Pride or a Bloomer. No fancy bread then, even brown bread was like cardboard.

In the Army in the 70s and 80s, bread only came as white sliced in a waxed paper wrapper. The only writing on it was the day, mind you it was always four or five days old before we got it.

Perhaps that’s why I still prefer ordinary white bread, sliced or unsliced, don’t mind.

May not be as healthy, but hey ho.

DG…

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Here you go.

“Sourdough bread and white bread are made with different doughs and processes, despite both being types of bread. Here are the key differences:
Ingredients
Sourdough bread is typically made with just three basic ingredients:
• Flour
• Water
• Salt
White bread, on the other hand, often includes additional ingredients:
• Flour
• Water
• Salt
• Commercial yeast
• Sugar
• Milk or butter (in some recipes)
Leavening Agent
The most significant difference lies in the leavening agent used:
Sourdough Bread:
• Uses a sourdough starter, which is a fermented mixture of flour and water containing wild yeast and lactic acid bacteria.
• This starter is responsible for the bread’s rise and distinctive tangy flavor.
White Bread:
• Relies on commercial yeast for leavening.
• This yeast acts more quickly and produces a more consistent rise.
Fermentation Process
The fermentation process also differs between the two:
Sourdough Bread:
• Undergoes a longer fermentation period, often lasting several hours or even days.
• This extended fermentation contributes to the bread’s flavor and texture.
White Bread:
• Has a shorter fermentation time due to the use of commercial yeast.
• The process is generally quicker and more predictable.”

Sourdough bread can be healthier than regular white bread even when made with the same flour due to several factors related to its unique fermentation process:
Improved Nutrient Absorption
1. The fermentation process in sourdough bread production lowers the bread’s pH, which helps deactivate phytates (antinutrients) present in the flour.
2. This reduction in phytates allows for better absorption of minerals like calcium, magnesium, iron, and zinc from the bread.
Enhanced Digestibility
1. The long fermentation process breaks down gluten proteins, making sourdough bread easier to digest, especially for those with gluten sensitivity (though not safe for those with celiac disease).
2. Sourdough fermentation produces prebiotics, which feed beneficial gut bacteria and improve digestive health.
Better Blood Sugar Control
1. Sourdough bread may have a lower glycemic index compared to regular bread, potentially leading to a slower release of sugars into the bloodstream.
2. This can result in better blood sugar control, particularly beneficial for people with impaired glucose metabolism.
Increased Nutrient Content
1. The fermentation process increases the bioavailability of nutrients in the flour.
2. Sourdough bread often contains higher levels of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants compared to regular bread.
Probiotic Benefits
While the beneficial bacteria don’t survive the baking process, they produce lactic acid during fermentation, which can boost gut health.
In conclusion, although sourdough bread may use the same flour as regular bread, the fermentation process significantly alters its nutritional profile, making it potentially healthier and more digestible for many people.

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@Andreas.ca

I know that that you’re trying to score points, for whatever reason, but crikey, are your posts extremely difficult to read.

It appears as just one block of text and because it’s difficult to read, it is hard to understand it and it ends up coming over as a rant.

Can you please proofread it before posting so that some of us can actually understand what you are talking about.

Many thanks.

DG….

Again you are posting something that compares “sourdough bread” with “white bread”. The listed benefits are nothing to do with the sourdough process, but due to the grain(s) used. At least in Britain and parts of Europe I have visited, there are, and were long before the recent sourdough fad, plenty of breads made with non-white flour using cultivated yeast instead of the wild yeasts from the sourdough process. Those have all the same nutrients, vitamins minerals and fibre etc, it being nothing unique to sourdough bread. And those that want white bread and want to join the sourdough fashion can make sourdough bread with processed white wheat flour as the main ingredient, so lacking some of them much as white bread made with cultivated yeast.

As for this claim, the only difference I can see:

Please point to evidence of claimed health benefits. (In UK health claims have to be supported by evidence, because there have been so many false claims).

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For me, sourdough bread is one of those things you eat that needs to be done properly and made with a purpose in mind. Having it served in a class restaurant, there’s probably nothing better. It has a particular taste, consistency and is very tasty. It goes well with the served sauces, wine, proper butter and general evening meal food (insert long list).

Proper sourdough shouldn’t be confused with the general offerings that aren’t made with good ingredients or skill. They are dry, hard rubbish. And it’s not really for slicing to be put in a toaster or smothering with jam or crap.

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I reread the post without a comprehension issue.

and no points trying to be scored.

Just amazed at those with dough issues on an audio site

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One could say exactly the same about breads made with cultivated yeast! However I’ve encountered more badly made sourdough breads than I have other bread, which I guess is through people making it not being expert bakers.

A white paper on grains in an audio forum?

Interesting.

Possibly time for a separate thread for the dough nuts? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Waxed paper wrapping…man, I’d forgotten about that. Instant time travel.

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