The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

This will be a very interesting, if niche, use case with the nDAC.

Many respected posters on these forums listened and said the 555PS (non DR) was preferable to the DR version - but only on an nDAC.

Ourselves, well we never had a chance to test that viewpoint. DR power supplies were introduced in 2012, and the nDAC ran til 2018, so our view was naim were selling the DR as the partner PSU.

We use the nDAC (2011) with a 555PSDR and it sounds fabulous.

Given naim’s stated impression here (that listening tests have shown NPX to be better than XPSDR) one would imagine an nDAC with NPX would also sound fantastic.

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Sure
Agreed.
Adding either XPS or 555PS (DR or not) used to be the recommended way to upgrade a nDAC.

I guess this feedback is useful to nDAC users, to ensure there is a PSU upgrade option going forward. That being NPX-300 and/or the new connectivity which seems to be coming with New Classic PSU’s

That includes me :+1:
Others have expressed an interest too
@WRivers1987 has asked three times now
@OuYang expressed an interest just above.
So there is interest in this topic. So, I guess I’m just asking on behalf of others before too.

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The pin outs of type 3/4 have all the voltages required for the “legacy” burndy, as evidenced by the fact the Y adapter version is available for NDX2.

I can see no technical reason why an nDAC, which works with XPSDR, wouldn’t work with NPX300, plus Y adapter burndy.

Just need naim to dig it out in the lab and confirm :crossed_fingers:

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Exactly :+1:

@IainO At risk of thread drift, I’d be interested a quick perspective on nDac vs NDX2 (when a 555PS is present), if you’re open to it. Your system suggests nDac won out? Single stack too?

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Lol there are literally 1000’s of posts on this one :smiley:

OUR summary: after extended listening to both setups it is extremely close, many tracks you hear little difference. Overall we preferred slightly darker/bass character of nDAC, which also seems to dig out the last nuance of detail.

In another room, with different amplification and speakers, we might have made the alternate choice.

Our Sky TV box goes into NDX2 first. For some reason this sounds better than straight into nDAC!

Neither pairing is clearly “better”.

An interesting face off would be NDX2/NPX vs nDAC/NPX….

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Thank you. Yes, I realise this can be a hot topic of debate, but wanted to get a quick view from someone who still has that setup. Appreciated. I also recognise the “darker” characteristic you mention of the nDac. Interesting.

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That is the takeaway here - both pairings are excellent, but with very slightly different presentation.

If our nDAC died we’d plug the 555 into NDX2 and keep smiling.

I’ll offer to compare both with new PSU if a benefactor sends me an NPX :laughing:

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Another concern is the futher Naim PSU roadmap, NSC 222 is streamer & pre-amp so it use both connectors on NPX 300. How about futher streamer(or DAC) and pre-amp(or Nait)? If a NPX 300 can acts like XPS + HiCap to enhance futher digital and analgue product at the same time, then it will be great.

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I do have a general compatibility question for the new 250 and Snaxo 242. I’m wondering if it’s possible to connect a new 250 to a 242, using legacy cables? If so, any concerns if going wonky with a new 250 and a 250DR? This might be one for @110dB?

Would the NPX300 be able to power a 252, as an assumed upgrade?

Would the NPX300 be able to power a SN3?

I love these system internal images. It’s art.

Trying to imagine what goes into not only knowing what you want to achieve but sourcing the right components for it and coming to a design to put them all together in an optimal way. Love it.

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A legitimate concern here as the SNAXO has difficulty driving SNAICs without potential instability, hence why active leads are recommended in their place when using the smaller power amps in an active Naim system.

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No.

No, the NPX300 cannot be used to power the existing analogue pre-amps or phono stages such as the Stageline, Prefix and Superline.

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Hi nDAC users,

I’m sorry the NPX 300 will not power the nDAC.

This is due to the PCM1704 DAC chip requiring +/-10V and there’s only a +10V.

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Presumably the same is true for the NDS Steve (and the ND555, but I’d already assumed it would be the case).

Steve

As that news is contrary to earlier indications, that’s really positive feedback.
Great to get that definitive answer. Thanks.
Now we all know.

Thank you
As always, your thoughtful contribution is much appreciated.

KR
R

Edit : nDAC PSU option is XPS or 555PS (DR or not) then.
Being positive, whilst XPS might end soon, the 555PS looks set to continue for a while yet.

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Hi sound-hound,

The manuals have a page to show what is included in the box:

NSC 222

NAP 250

NPX 300

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