You wanna move the AV amp for sure 
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Iâve yet to see any pics of the 222 with a turntable connected and reviews of the inbuilt MM stageâŚ
Any takers?
Sometimes practicality rules. Both of our systems are integrated into AV systems and drive front L&R (SuperUniti in lounge) and all 5 speakers (SN3/NAP V175) in the back room. All works well without (in my opinion) compromising 2 channel stereo when that is what is required.
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I have run it with my solstice, but not through the built in phono obviously. Sounded really goodđ
First step NPX 300
Second step 250
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I spent a good amount of time listening to vinyl with the 222 a couple days last weekâitâs really good. New Transcriptors Reference with Origin Live onyx 10â arm, Supex MC, Ortophon active MC step up into the 222âs MM phono stage. Very nice.
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Absolutely, I have a TV in between my speakers and an AV amp connected up to my main speakers. We do what we must. I have kept my AV amp in a separate cabinet as I prefer all my hifi gear on the Fraim racks. Absolutely nothing wrong with putting it with the Naim stuff. Itâs just those three boxes look so good together. Ultimately itâs what it sounds like and practicality must overide looks at times!
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You could be right as I have not heard or seen the 222. I know itâll be good but my opinion is based on how Naim will position the 200 series.
Nice enjoy your new system. I remember splashing out on mine in 2004. I would certainly be interested to hear the new stuff but if I had the cash to burn I would go towards Top Auralic, EAR and living voice OBX
Thank you for your answer. Just to be clear, does that mean it needs a new kind of burndy? I canât use the burndy which I have used with NAP-N272 with my XP5XS? It would be nice to try how it sounds with my new 222 and 250 combo.
As do I, the surround sound is as important to me as the stereo. Really pleased to hear that that the new units have av bypass.
Mark
Pete from your comments above, and @Bevo, I think there will be a lot of folks who give a listen to the new and stay with what they have. âŚand we know right now that the legacy system sound is awesome! I think a lot of people would be quite happy with a 252/SC DR, 250 DR, NDX2/XPS DR system.
I was thinking about keeping my NDX 2 and 282 and possibly start with the new 250 power amp and then possibly replace my XPS DR with the NPX 300 PS. Then maybe see if a higher 300 level streamer/preamp is released some time later this year or next, Right now in the US you have to buy all of the boxes to make it work. The connecting cables to legacy products will not be available for a couple of more months. So you have to buy custom made or 3rd party cables/connectors.
First world problems but and I know my existing system is sounding sublime!
So for now my dealer has a system in place and will drop by for a listen hopefully next week.
Life is sweetâŚ
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That was simple ignorance and superstition. Science proved that this isnât the case.
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Maybe the time to update that FAQ to be more specific?
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I wasnât going post on this thread anymore as I donât want to rain in someoneâs parade. I know the new stuff will be great and I also know my current system is fantastic. I have no intention to trade in anything right now.
My main concern is in my 28 years of being a Naim customer I never seen my stuff so devalued so quickly. A disgruntled party told me over 3 years ago about what would happen and it has. Naim and the local distributor have greedily made it almost impossible to upgrade.
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Not so sweet here down under seakayaker with the eye watering retail prices for the new classics gear and this is only the start
Iâm about to start on the streaming path so itâs an interesting one for me on a pathway through
But Iâm not prepared to take a bath on the now heavily discounted prices just announced here by the distributor on my 252/SCDR/250DR. Those are keepers for me and sound fantastic .
The key for me is a higher spec preamp/ streamer than the 222 but thatâs for the future
But as you say life is still sweet
Cheers
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Well yes, but what you have still sounds as good as it ever did. You paid for it what you thought it was worth at the time. Also you still have the option for a couple of upgrades via the second hand market, which may now be a bit cheaper.
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The current discounting shows how little the new distributor knows their market. Naim have always done well out of existing customers upgrading and them introducing new clients. The fire sale of the classics shows me 2 things one is theyâve had too much stock and havenât been able to shift it and secondly how much margin theyâre been making. Whatever the reasoning when your gear doesnât devalue quickly you able to trade in and upgrade however now weâve been wacky twice. Falling prices for gear and stupid prices for replacing them theyâve shot their support base. Naim has only ever been a boutique brand here I feel itâll now be less than that. Very sad a I hope someone in management is reading these posts.
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How does supporting the second hand market help me my dealer or Naim. Itâs like buying CDs from an op shop the artist doesnât get the money.
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Thanks for introducing me to Taylor Swift and Justin Vernon duet âExileâ. Ditto Daft Punkâs Touch.
There are quite a few versions of Exile so not sure which one you are listening to. I think the last two in the photo are the same. Not sure about the birds although the last two have some strange low sounds quite early on before Taylor Swift, the female backing singers and others join in. Justin Vernon has a wonderful voice. Itâs a beautiful duet.
Phil
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