The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

I like that there is a volume knob so I won’t complain too much that it sticks out more than I’d like.

I think it said you can use a specific cable to connect the two

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Oh please, no, no, no…at least not until they can decouple firmware updates from affecting the sonic signature.

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Based on pictures I agree. The rest of the range looks cool & very cds3 look but I reserve judgement until I’ve seen a 222 in the flesh but from pictures the volume design looks ‘challenging’. I’d be interested in whoever have seen it in the flesh to give their views on the aesthetic . I expected a recessed volume.

Crossed my mind but you don’t generally design for something that specific. It sort of paints you in a corner.

Anyways, as I don’t have any plans to upgrade to anything sub 500 and the 500 series is way out of my price range, all of this is moot.

I doubt my old NDX/XPSdr will start sounding broken.

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It’s possible to have it both ways. Set as a preference in the app. For example: 1) do nothing, but notify, 2) download only and notify, 3) download and perform update

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However the specs list Apple Music separate to Airplay 2.

Airplay 2 can potentially output most things unless the source is blocked.

Explicitly mentioning Apple Music implies native support to me in teh same way Tidal, Spotify and Qobuz are mentioned. Fingers crossed Naim have secured native access.

I see a lot of good feedback on the new design but personally I think the 222 looks bad from any angle. The design line does not flow and creates a hollow look right in the middle. The volume knob looks cheap and being so big, out of place. I don’t think the new design will age well unlike the old.

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Answered above (by Naim) and the answer was no.

Do keep up :grinning:

.sjb

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:man_facepalming: :person_facepalming: :woman_facepalming:

Only just catching up on several hours after being out food shopping and for a dip/spell in the steam room at the gym.

So many testosterone fuelled youngsters with attitude/space issues at the gym tonight I thought I was lucky to make it back! It was that ‘physical’ move out of my way without even asking or an ‘excuse me’ attitude that got a lot of verbal insults from me. Maybe my accidental #1 haircut made me look more menacing than I am and they had to ‘front up’. :wink:

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Not sure what would be so specific about balanced XLR outputs.

Not sure if it is the collective British psyche over the past several years but there is a theme emerging from most British hifi makers recently that seems to be what I call “New Brutalism”. Definitely a mean aggressive look to much gear of late.

I’m not comfortable with the aesthetic at all.

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Anyone know if the NSC 222 is Roon Ready?

Apple hasn’t licensed Apple Music to any 3rd party hardware device as far as I know. You can only stream it via Airplay 2, or use a connected AppleTV, for example.

$11,999 per item, is the list price from the main dealer in Vancouver. Guess I will stick with what I have

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I just mean it favours a long run to a power amp (or speaker) rather than a short single ended run to a power amp on the same rack.

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Yes, that’s part of the current Naim streaming platform, and has been since the second generation devices. I’m pretty sure it’s noted as well on the product page.

Sonos is the only one I’m aware of.

Not what most of us would consider audiophile kit but it is a departure.

Does Sonos get lossless/better than CD quality or just lossy 256 kbps AAC? I have no idea but it’s not reliant on Airplay 2.

To be honest I use Airplay from my AppleTV 4k to the Nova outputting to the 282 based active system when using the projector. It sounds bloody good in fairness.

Current AppleTVs since ATV 4 have lacked optical out and you’d need something receiver like capable of outputting HDMI audio and forwarding video to make it work otherwise. I have a rather nice old Pioneer 7.1 amp but it’s a complete faff to incorporate it and Airplay now that lip sync seems to have been largely eliminated works fine for AV even if the fidelity may be lower than lossless hi-res Apple Music via external DACs hooked up to iOS/iPad OS device or Macs with external DACs.

Interesting, but it’s not high res. It’s limited to 16-bit, 48khz. That’s limited to CD quality.

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My takeaway so far re the NSC222 , is that it is very good value. This is because it is replacing the 282/252 preamps whilst at the same time offering a dac and streamer. Many of us will have a legacy power supply to power the NSC222 so this is a fantastic way improve preamp quality for 272 owners. This is because the 272 preamp quality seems to be somewhere between the 202 and the 282. The NSC222 also has state of the art streaming software. The question for me is how much better the NSC222 would sound with the legacy 555dr vs the NSX300.
As a 272/555dr/250dr owner I am very happy, as it sounds like swapping the 272 for NSC222 along with a new burndy, should give a large improvement in sound quality without breaking the bank.

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