It doesn’t, it sits at the bottom of the Naim new classic series hierarchy with a very noticeable upgrade to the NSC222 by adding an NPX300 to it.
I enjoyed my quick demo of the new classic line up so far and look forward to hear the rest when it comes out.
This is consistent with what I’ve heard as well and not surprising. It’s good to see Naim producing better SQ with the lower tier boxes.
So you’ve actually heard a new classic series demo then?
seakayaker’s response: “Your own ears…”
I believe the only way you are going to be sure is to demo and listen with your own ears. Following the enthusiastic recommendations from others can be helpful and can also prove catastrophic. …a demo system, in my room, with my ears, may have different results then some of the other enthusiastic responses regarding the new gear posted in this thread.
My one time listen in the dealers show room of the NPX 300, NCS 200, NAP 250 (2023) did not leave me with the impression that spending $26,997.00 plus 10.1% sales tax was worth replacing my XPS DR > NDX 2 > SuperCap DR > NAC 282 > NAP 250 DR.
The new gear is lovely but having had an initial listen I’ll stick with what I have for now.
Happy for those who made the upgrade and I am looking forward to the upcoming 300 series being released.
Yeah, I can manage that too. Did you use the same source?
Glad you don’t feel the need to junk your old amps - they’re not even Naim’s inspiration for new by sounds of it but what do they know!
I’ve bought loads of Naim gear unheard based on the recommendations and impressions of members here and friends here in the states. You never really know about any kit until it’s plugged into your home listening environment. Dealer demos are only going to give you an impression. In 25 years the only kit I really regretted was the 252/SC2/250.2 and less so the 200. The DR series seemed to correct the problems I had with the original classic. I haven’t home demoed the NC kit but the feedback I’ve heard from my friends in the states who have has been good and corroborates the impressions most are having here. I’m anxiously awaiting the 300 series kit. I didn’t like the old classic sound coming from the olive boxes and I think it’s normal some folks won’t like the latest kit whether that’s based on actual SQ observations or just stubbornness is another matter.
I am fortunate that I am located about 10-15 minute drive from my dealer and can home demo gear easily. I have been fortunate that I have never been disappointed with any Naim gear that I had a home demo with and then purchased.
There have been items I demoed at home an have not purchased that have been highly praised by others on the forum. It does not mean they do not sound good, just not in my room, with my system and my ears.
Yeah, I had a good dealer for years in Chicago but it’s a Naim desert in a literal desert here in Scottsdale. I will do a dealer demo at some point in conjunction with some travel. I’m not in a huge hurry but I don’t know how long I can hold out. And I’m still not certain which path to take, 250NC first or 222 first. I’m not ready to take the plunge on all three boxes that’s for sure. I’ll buy a new Ducati before I do that. ![]()
You have really snowed in on fewer boxes El !
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No it’s not. It’s in the eating of the pudding.
Sorry. I had to get that off my chest ![]()
Yes, I saw that.
I just thought a Nait 2 more interesting.
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There are several dealers in Southern California, which is not too distant.
At least one of them has a 60-day return policy which can be used as a home demo period.
They are happy to do it as long as you are not doing it continuously ![]()
Probably worth a telephone call and a chat
Yeah, my Ovators came from Venice Audio iirc. They could be an option. Hopefully mail order is an option since I don’t have a local dealer.
But that doesn’t tell us anything about the performance of the streaming section of the NSC222.
I know it’s utterly selfish of me but I can’t wait for the 300 series to hit the shelves and bring that 500DR closer to my grasping hands ![]()
The trade in offers I got were a joke. Yes I could get a bit more privately but I chose to keep the amps and speakers which are fine and as good as new after a service and recap plus new tweeters. Personally I would rather spend my life savings on other things. Finish off the house and travel around a bit. The new basement listening room needs to be finished. I only recently dabbled in streamers with the Auralic, so better streaming source is likely.
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Been having a cheeky look online, can’t see anything on the new amps (good job at keeping images offline this time round Naim
)… but looks like Focal have a Porche at the show?