The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

Crucially though its less boxes…you can have a fab system with just 2 boxes…which is really neat.

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New to Classic line…
In which case, NOT new to Naim brand

Edit : So existing Naim customer target audience(s) might be :
Uniti
XS Series
Old Classic series - trading up ( upgrading SQ )
Old Classic series - trading sideways ( fewer boxes )
Legacy system (Chrome or Olive) owners, looking for latest innovations
etc
etc
etc

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I probably haven’t followed the thread as closely as others, but I wonder whether the suggested discontinuation of the 282 and 252 should be interpreted as the end of “vanilla” pre-amps in the Classic range.

I can understand that Naim might want to focus on the production of the current new products – i.e. no 282 and 252 for the time being.

But surely, there is a strong case for pure pre-amps in the sub-25K market. Not everybody wants to have pre-amp and streaming in one box. Personally, I am rather put off by that thought – look at what you get for a 272 after a few years of use, whereas the 2(82) and 2(52) have maintained good resale value for decades! And some folks want to use a range of DACs/streamers, including myself – so little appetite to pay for a streamer in the preamp black box…

I appreciate that Naim doesn’t discuss future products, but maybe they could still clarify as to whether the posting on the Signals website is possibly misinterpreted by some. Cheers.

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I spoke to my dealer yesterday - fresh out the box they were very pleased with the music

just running in the units now, hope to get over soon to see in the flesh and with my ears

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I think part of the confusion here is that the NAP 250 would be connected to a HiCap or SuperCap. As a result the Signals document shows a cable to link the NAP 250 and the power supplies but none connecting the NAP 250 directly to the pre amps. This is entirely correct but I can see why it confuses some.

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I have exactly that cable going from ther Hi-cap attached to my 282 to the ATC 40a. Sounds great to me. Cable supplied by ATC as far as I am aware.

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Aye, I would be slightly surprised if the only 200 level pre is the NSC 222, given until recently there were 3 in the 200 range. I think the wording on the Signals website is entirely ambiguous and does not preclude other 200 range, dedicated, pre-amp/s. Equally I agree that Naim are unlikely to confirm or deny any other plans purely at our behest!

Claire N used to say something along the lines that many at Naim remained big fans of streaming pre-amps, maybe the most we can hope for is that someone states that Naim remain big fans of “reasonably priced” dedicated pre-amps!? :smiley:

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Just seen a system in my local store (they were setting up in a listening room so didn’t get to hear it) Looks wise, superb. Still not sure about the durability so the groove material. I’ll nip back in a week or two to have a listen once it has bedded in. Might be the perfect thing to get new customers on board as it fits right in aesthetically with the Mercedes / BMW crowd if you know what I mean.

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As I just got the 250DR that won’t be going anywhere. And it was not a fully uninformed purchase. There were enough signals something was coming this year but for the price difference vs performance in my setting it’s perfect.

What may happen in future is that my Atom He makes way for a 222.

But first need to address the speaker situation, ahem…

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That’s because they connect to the Supercap , HiCap etc.

I would assume it’s a 4pin DIN to Balanced XLR’s

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I know exactly what you mean, I drive an Alfa :wink:

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It can be worrying, but of course it depends on what the reasons are? Excessive staff turnover is never good, especially if key people disappear…

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It’s very heartening to see most forum members being on board and not flouncing out…

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I think I am safe in saying people don’t leave a company if they are happy, able to progress and well rewarded.

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Sad if that’s the case. :sleepy:

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I was responding to @ratrat’s post about looping back in with the 222. Context is everything.

Roger

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We all have differing preferences and choose accordinly. Hints have already been made by Naim staff on this thread that more will follow in due course - the caveat or teaser was “maybe”. Production and supply difficulties in relatively recent past launches (Uniti), will mean that no road map is likely. There are some, I am one, for whom the streamer pre is ideal, just two boxes with NAP. The 272 arrived late in the 1st gen streamer line up. It therefore didn’t appeal to replace my SU, which I then did with the Nova, knowing the now replaced, 272 would be a while arriving. Mine will be used in kitchen / diner, on all day, notwithstanding that it is not my main system. I think it is a neat solution, which won’t appeal to everyone.

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What makes you think that owners of the SN3 might want to upgrade? If you own a streamer (presumably the NDX2) i am not sure if this enough of an upgrade - wether functional or sound related. The price difference between SN3/NDX2 and NSC222/NAP250 is „only“ around 2000 pounds.
But time will tell if it is actually worth it…With this beeing so close i wonder wether Naim will discontinue the NDX2 as it seems to have a rather strange position in the current lineup if the new combo is really much better.

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@110dB

Can you enlighten us Solstice owners about powering the the turntable with the NPX-300. Thanks.

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I can’t decide, as a Mercedes owner, whether I should take offence to this or not :thinking:

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