The perfect listening room

Nic eto see your pic of doubled up ESL57s - matches ones I’ve seen before - but I was expecting to see a triple array Or is it the other pair in a different room?

Did you mean the post to be in this thread, rather than either the pics from listening position or system pics thread?

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The perfect listening room ?

My own personal view is skewed as I have never experienced a big system in a big room.
From importance would be…

Be comfortable to spend some time in with natural light sources.

A space that can also be used for activities other than just listening. Just having a listening room would make me feel somewhat a prisoner of my own vices - perhaps a large collection of booze and a big screen to watch Emmerdale.

Within short distance to a toilet.

On a ground floor.

Not too large and not too small.

Hang on, that seems just like my living room. :innocent:

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There is another pair of ESLs fixed (upside down from the ceiling from where I shot that photo). They get their input from the AV-1 rear sound processor (second shelf down on the left) powering the NAP250, which is the middle amp on the bottom row of shelves.

I had a friend post the photo for me, so this is where it ended up. If she hadn’t posted the photo for me, it might never have made it onto this Forum!

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Interesting!

I have just posted a photo (above) of my ideal listening room!

Is that Symphony Hall in Birmingham, where the lovely Mirga plies her trade?

My original statement at the start of the thread:

"Just wondering what forum members think would make the perfect listening room if you could build it from scratch in a home residential setting.

What would be the perfect room dimensions? ceiling/roof height? ceiling/roof shape? wall construction? floor construction? etc etc etc…"

As an aside, I wouldn’t put the RAH in any list of ‘decent spaces’, as they’ve had massive struggles with managing the acoustics, as the RAH isn’t very acoustics friendly it seems – well not for the modern-day stuff.

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The RFH acoustics aren’t great. Some sound engineers tried to cut down on the ambient resonance by fitting those ‘flying saucer’ thingies, which hang from the ceiling, thirty or forty years ago.

My original statement at the start of the thread:

"Just wondering what forum members think would make the perfect listening room if you could build it from scratch in a home residential setting.

What would be the perfect room dimensions? ceiling/roof height? ceiling/roof shape? wall construction? floor construction? etc etc etc…"

Shoebox and Vineyard are two recognised types of concert hall design, apparently.

The proportions of which are roughly that of a double cube, 1:1:2. Today this rectangular form is widely ascribed throughout acoustic literature as the shoebox.

The Bridgewater Hall, shown above, is apparently a shoebox/vineyard hybrid.

Arup and RHWL Partnership refined the original auditorium design to optimise the acoustics. Elements of the typical ‘shoebox’ and ‘vineyard’ concert hall forms were combined to create a rarely-attempted ‘hybrid’ form.

…interesting reading as I was whiling away some time over lunch today :slight_smile:

Apparently it was designed to accentuate bass notes, reverberation time extended specifically in the lower registers to 3 seconds, vs 2 for higher frequencies. Not all listeners appreciate the emphasis.

Maybe if they used the standard lilac Naim ICs they’d please more of their audiences?

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My original statement at the start of the thread:

"Just wondering what forum members think would make the perfect listening room if you could build it from scratch in a home residential setting.

What would be the perfect room dimensions? ceiling/roof height? ceiling/roof shape? wall construction? floor construction? etc etc etc…"

I asked Richard if he’d re open my old thread “The perfect listening room” again as I’ve been tinkering with my design further and came up with a second option.

As you can see I’m not really after the perfect acoustically perfect listening room (although that would be nice) but I’m after the perfect room to listen to music in.

It’s 50% a garden/day room to relax, lounge and chat with friends and 50% a hifi audio listening room.

The first design is just a large open plan room and the second is basically the same overall foot print but split into two separate spaces.

I was just wondering what forums members thought and if they had any further input.

Click on the images for a larger preview or click on the image again (twice) for an even larger preview.

Option 1

Option 2


View outside

I currently have six pairs of speakers, I just used the SL2’s and SBL’s on the plans as an example of where the speakers would be and where the listing position would be.

My current line up of speakers which I’m happy with:
SBL (black ash)
SBL (cherry)
SL2 (cherry)
Neat Ekstra’s
Cube Nenuphar 10 inch
Living Voice OBX RW

I could arguably sell some of my speakers and get a bigger more expensive pair, I could also split the space further into three separate spaces by sectioning off the big/main room on Option 2 into two rooms.

If I split the main room on Option 2 in half I’d have two rooms that were 11ft x 18ft which would give a separate day room and listening room instead of a large open plan day/listening room.

My current listening room is 22.2ft x 22.2ft and I find all my speakers work very well in this space.

It’s actually the Bridgewater hall in Manchester. Home to the Halle. The whole building sits on 280 springs to isolate it from external noise.

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I guess the options are:

One large 24x22ft listening room
or
One large 22x18ft listening room
or
One 18x11ft listening room.

And a massive brass plate :wink:

This from Arup website:

To achieve total protection from external road and railway noise, the lower levels of the auditorium are surrounded by a cocoon of foyers and offices. A limestone-clad double skin insulates upper walls from airborne sound, and the building rests on 280 sets of steel springs to isolate it from noise from the adjacent railway.

The hall is protected from its own noise by housing all major plant items in a detached tower. Services are supplied from the tower through acoustically-lined ducts. The two air conditioning ducts are 20 times normal size – ensuring air flow is slow and silent.

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Shouldn’t be too difficult to scale this down to a domestic environment then. :wink:

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Can we please keep this thread on topic.

My original statement at the start of the thread:

"Just wondering what forum members think would make the perfect listening room if you could build it from scratch in a home residential setting.

What would be the perfect room dimensions? ceiling/roof height? ceiling/roof shape? wall construction? floor construction? etc etc etc…"