Other services offer 90 days for free - with higher quality streaming on Naim equipment and better reward the artists (for a streaming service). I’d shop around.
Like what?
Qobuz has a free promo period but at least here in Germany it’s 30 days not 90
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Qobuz! If you do a search you’ll find the 90 day offer.
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Well it’s 20 quid a month and we don’t all have 5k to spend on the boxes, never mind on speaker cables. You pay for the Tidal service. The artists have already been paid royalties. You might be super rich but I’m not.
Yes I think I’ll do that. Bin off Tidal for 3 months, subscribe to the Qobuz free trial, and get the “judgemental holier than thou” off my case. Really no need for it.
They don’t get paid by individual subscriptions. You pay for Tidal’s UI. So Tidal is stingy what’s your problem with me not giving them £58. They’ve had plenty of money off me for a few years.
TIDAL is paying to the artists so you are not paying only for UI for them.
Tidal has one of the highest royalty payment rates in the music industry. Paying nearly 3 times as much as other high volume music streaming services.
If you want to support the artists you don’t haggle for subscriptions…
From what most artists are saying, if you want to support artists you need to commit to something other than a streaming service. Buy a CD or a t-shirt.
Tidal more generous than some but difficult to see many making a living just from streams.
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Tidal may well be stingy, but significantly less so than other streaming providers, and I would suggest significantly less than you if you persistently evade paying for the service Tidal provides. The royalties they pay may seem small but Tidal don’t even break even. If you can afford to use Naim HiFi equipment it seems pretty bizarre to me that you are not prepared to pay for the music service you use given that inadequate revenues could obliterate these few lossless providers that we rely on.
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My comment was in context of streaming only (in order to keep the focus on the thread title at least loosely). I buy (new) vinyls regularly …
Tidal’s contribution to artists per stream is miniscule compared to Qobuz as with many other streaming providers (note the data is from 2018, source The Tricordist).
I don’t agree with advocating a service that doesn’t offer high resolution on the Naim platform, allegedly messes with the gain on tracks and also doesn’t reward the artists as much as others, yet costs the subscriber more:-
| Digital Service Provider | $ Per Stream |
|---|---|
| Qobuz | $0.04390 |
| Peloton | $0.04036 |
| iHeartRadio | $0.01426 |
| Amazon Unlimited | $0.01175 |
| Napster/Rhapsody | $0.01110 |
| 24/7 Entertainment GmbH | $0.01050 |
| YouTube Red | $0.00948 |
| Tidal | $0.00927 |
| Deezer | $0.00567 |
| Google Play | $0.00543 |
| Apple | $0.00495 |
| KKBox | $0.00435 |
| Amazon Digital Services Inc. | $0.00395 |
| Spotify | $0.00331 |
| Loen | $0.00205 |
| Pandora | $0.00155 |
| Vevo | $0.00109 |
| Yandex LLC | $0.00051 |
| YouTube Content ID | $0.00028 |
| UMA | $0.00013 |
Bottom ten providers really are milking it.
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I think in your perception of “Judgement holier than thou” you missed the fact that you are not going about your discount honestly. As I mentioned you are gaming the system. But that’s you
Actually the labels do get paid based on the overall sum of subscription income, from the Tidal FAQ:
Currently, all major streaming services calculate royalties for sound recordings in a similar manner. An overall royalty “pool” is determined every month by streaming providers, the size of which is based upon the total subscription fees received from subscribers for that month. Then, the total number of streams are aggregated across subscribers each month on a country and plan basis, and then split by artist.
Granted, artists in the end often get shafted either way (and have always been a hundred years before streaming). Nevertheless …
They’re getting desperate. Just received an email with an offer of 90 days for £1.00
I knew playing hard ball would pay dividends. Eventually. 
I wonder with these offers, do Tidal still pay the artists the same amount?
The royalties are paid out of the revenue (subscription fees). If that dries out the artists first get less and eventually Tidal goes bust. Personally I am happy to pay a bit more to keep them in the business. However, I am afraid that I am in the minority and the service which I like might unfortunately disappear.
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I’ve cancelled my service and they immediately offered me 10% discount to stay. I’m cancelling because I want to try Qobuz for a bit. I’ve still got Spotify Premium but don’t need all three. If I prefer Tidal I’ll drop the other two and re-instate Tidal. I never really use Spotify anymore except occasionally on my phone/Dac.
As the father of a professional jazz musician, I can say with authority that the musicians do not already have royalties. They are all struggling to stay in the world of music. My son has two albums out, both in Jazz charts, one the Jazz album of the year on BBC Radio 6; therefore,many plays on radio etc., Covid has been a disaster for them, he gets paid £200 a gig fgs.
If you want music, please have the good grace to pay for it.
I’m sure you require a reward for the work you do?
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