Use (and Useability Issues) of the Naim app (IOS and Android)

Nice work SuedKiez.

I wonder if they are able to tell us what that curious ‘share’ button is supposed to do for playlists?

Just doing what I can, thanks to the software staff who are very responsive :+1:
Maybe better for someone with iOS to ask as the Share button is not there in Android. There are more iOS people in the beta group anyways. I’ sure you understand I’d like to stick to Android stuff.

If someone from Naim is watching, this is the button in question:

No probs…but the thread is IOS too.

The thread is of course, I just meant I wouldn’t like to ask in the beta thread regarding an issue for which I cannot answer any questions as I don’t have it.

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I had problems with iPad and Android applications until I installed MinimServer on my NAS.
Now both work just fine and I have no issues.
However I only use locally stored music and Internet radio. I do not use subscription services like Tidal

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It has been brought to the attention of the developers. I found an apparently non-functional option in the Android app, so this was a reasonable opportunity to mention the Share button on iOS too

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@LJS, how many Qobuz favorites do you have? I have approx 2,500 albums and at least part of the unresponsiveness I am experiencing has been traced to this rather high number. Would this explain yours too?

As somebody who uses Android devices and have previously posted that I have no problems with responsiveness with any of them when using the Naim app perhaps I should qualify that by saying that although I use Qobuz I have a grand total of zero albums in favourites and zero custom playlists. I use Qobuz to listen to albums and use search to find what I want to play

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There is now a separate thread for feature requests, so would probably help keeping things tidy by posting issues here and the requests over there:

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:+1: So I think we are getting somewhere

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I have about 2750 Qobuz albums. So that may be part of the issue.

By the way: I have noticed that not all my Qobuz albums make it into Naim favourites, only about a 1000 of the “youngest” do. And if I remove one of those from Qobuz, one more “older” Qobuz album is included in my Naim favourites.

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Ok I said the app was better at connecting during certain betas. Well I just remembered at that point I had most inputs turned off including all streaming services. As I have had to reset the unit many times during beta testing I had not put it back to as it was. So I just systematically turned them off and then back on. Without Qobuz it connects instantly, with it enabled slow to connect. I have over 2k of albums So there we have it, it had to do with Qobuz connection perhaps the authorisation is needed each time app opens and this is just slow to perform.

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I agree showing both versions without being able to distinguish is annoying. Ideally just show one, or at least mark them somehow. Think it’s worth filing a bug report for, have you done so already?

I’ve suggested before they just open up / document their API’s, but not much enthusiasm.

I guess for them it means that they would have to clean them up, and make sure they remain stable, which is now not required as they fully control both ends.

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Yes i think it’s a political decision, and i think it’s too bad because involving the community in the app ecosphere can really help to increase enthousiasm for the product.

BluOS (Bluesound, NAD, Dali) does offer API documentation: https://bluos.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Custom-Integration-API-v1.0_Dec_2020.pdf

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It’s a bit of an old fashioned way of looking at things, hopefully in the future they’ll come around. (I think they’ll need to)

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@n-lot I wholeheartedly agree with this - I’ve actually begun to scrape calls that are made from the app just to try and find the endpoints themselves. Having some API documentation wouldn’t necessarily make the apps better, but would help techy users work out what the app is actually designed to support (or not support).

Well, same here: just 5 favourites (radio stations) and zero playlists. Qobuz subscription. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab A6 (2016) model SM-T580 with Android 8.1.0 and I’m having most of the problems reported here: app stopping, not responding, slowly responding, slow to find my NX2. I can’t wait to have saved enough to buy a Nucleus with Roon. Otherwise very happy with my NX2.

Sorry, I meant SX2…

Are you also logged into Qobuz or Tidal and have quite many favorites?