In this period I struggle to audition the naia and I keep thinking about mg1. I felt in love with the Cersei’s and I never missed it, however a niggle keeps walking in my head. How much time the elastomer will last? If vertere disappears as it happens with lots of hifi company how will you change the consumable (elastomer)?
I don’t know the answer to your question, but maybe a few things to think about. Vertere is Touraj Moghaddam’s business or he’s heavily involved. I think he was a major player in Roksan beforehand. A long lived company. No company can give guarantees, but I think he has a great track record!
Does the elastomer wear or degrade with time? And is any likely timeframe going to be significant to you?
And finally, if maintainability is a significant consideration, then maybe choose from manufacturers who are particularly known for it, or who have products that are particularly amenable to it, or whose products are effectively maintenance free. Vertere say their DG1 needs no bearing oil changes for its lifetime. (Which might be self fulfilling - its life ends when the oil gives up and the bearing seizes 
) I’m sure Vertere could advise on the elastomer’s need for attention.
I do like the Vertere decks, interesting techniques used, definitely take their own path.
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Why don’t you contact Vertere? They are very responsive to emails. I personally don’t see it as a ‘consumable’!
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Vertere will continue to prosper as long as its founder, Touraj, wants it to.
He originally founded Roksan with a long-standing friend and ran it for several decades before the 2 founders parted ways. Touraj wanted to focus on outstanding turntables, while his partner seemed to prefer mid-range electronics.
History has validated Touraj’s decision, with Vertere going from strength to strength.
I sold my Roksan turntable to stay with Touraj and that decision continues to work out well to this day.
In summary, Vertere is not a here today, gone tomorrow start-up.
Hope this helps, BF
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I ve just contacted vertere to know the how to maintain their turntables in the future and I m waiting the answer. I Will share. However my concern is when a company is mainly recognised in the owner, the case of touraj. I respect him to the maximum but it is a point that we have to consider. Will someone be able to Maintain a vertere in the next 30 years?
It’s a fair question and one that could equally be laid at the front door of companies like Rega, Linn, Naim (back in Julian’s day but not now), D’Agostino, Levinson, Quad etc. etc.
The outcomes vary by company. Some become uncompetitive, others become part of a larger group.
But 30 years is a long time…
Good luck with your question.
Merry Christmas, BF
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Personally I wouldn’t worry about anything in 30 years time. The way the world is going I don’t think turntables will be high on people’s priorities……
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Well Thomas Malthus predicted imminent doom of the world because of over population and not being able to feed itself in 1789, … but here we are 260 years later.
I suspect turntables will be as relevant in 30 years time as they are now.
Interestingly the global population is expected to fall within the next 50 years, and is falling in much of Europe and Japan already.
Even the UK and German population is expected to fall, unless immigration remains at its current rate.
I remember someone saying exactly that in 1995 
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30 years was just an example to highlight that if everything is connected to Touraj everything will finish with him. This is what happened with Simon York and transfiguration. I m not pretending to buy something that will last forever but something maintainable. Rega is a company, naim is a company, my question is if vertere is as well.
Roksan still is. And Vertere is not a one person band. They’re companies, albeit with an individual setting strong direction. Rega is Roy Gandy etc. Rega are a counter argument to “It finishes when Roy Gandy leaves” as they’ve just announced a corporate structure change that derisks that considerably. See here:
None of us knows the answer here. I think if you want a TT that is guaranteed to be maintainable in future then the list is likely short - LP12, Rega, and any TT that is “simple” with enough around to support a few specialists. Or a maintenance free option, Technics SL1000R?
Be interested what Vertere come back with on your specific question on the elastomer.
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Vertere Limited were incorporated 18 years ago, October 26, 2006.
Roksan were bought by Monitor Audio in 2016. Started in 1985 IIUC.
My point is who knows what the future brings. Don’t buy stuff on the basis of such long timescales. If you want to get into ultimately repairability buy something already old with a thriving independent repair market. Personally I prefer something more modern. Anything old will have depreciated anyway. I sold my Rega P6 after 7 years and went for a Vertere DG1. It’s a big step up. If I were buying an MG I agree I would likely keep it long term and wouldn’t be worried about it failing mechanically.
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As much as I love rega i m sure that mg1 is another level, and the naia review in whathifi is clear on this regard.
This is why i m so interested in doing the investment.
@Bluesfan are you still resisting to the amazing imperium upgrade?
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My bank balance is resisting it for now, mainly because I’m about to significantly (and expensively) simplify the streamer first.
It’s just a matter of time though. Perhaps I’ll go Imperium when I retire properly, together with a thicker turntable and the Calon phono stage, which is utterly remarkable by the way…
Best regards, BF
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At that time I was wondering on which turntable buy , the P10 with the Lyra Kleos, or the Vertere MG1 and keep my Delos.
It was maybe 3 years ago. The Vertere was 30% more expensive.
Glad i didn’t took the Vertere. I am reading often that the arm is not easy to set up .
My dealer couldn’t fit the Kleos right on my Rega. I had to do it myself after.
What would it have been if he had to set up the Vertere ? Personally I wouldn’t know to do it myself.
Today the MG1 is double the price of what it was 3 years ago.
Not on my Roksan it wasn’t and has stayed true for 12 months.
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Likewise… I had a Vertere arm on my Xerxes X for c. 18 months, then the arm was moved to my MG-1 c.18 month ago. No issues. The same MC cartridge throughout which is still going strong…
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Hi @piebia, is the “elastomer” the suspension between the plinth leaves? If so then on Roksan Xerxes turntables these are referred to as blobs. I have a Xerxes X which I’ve had from new since c. 1998. In 2019 I asked Roksan whether I could have the Xerxes 20 plus blobs to fitted, which I understood to have been modified between the two designs. They said I could, but recommended that if the deck was working well, which it was, then there was no need to change them. Take from that what you will given that the Xerxes X and the MG-1 were designed by the same person.
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