252 Sound Signature

Guys,

What is the problem with the volume control? You get the finest of adjustment with a nudge on the remote.

Regards,

Lindsay

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I find nothing happens with a quick prod on the r/c, a slightly longer prod may or may nudge it up slightly but usually nothing happens at first, and a longer press takes a moment to invoke a change and then suddenly itā€™s shot from quiet to Jolly Loud before Iā€™ve had time to react. Itā€™s not a smooth fluid constant scale or rate of change.

The best way to make a small change is to repeatedly stab at the + button till it changes, or just walk the 5 steps to do it by hand.

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Try three/four/five short presses. One isnt noticable in itself but find a number that works for you.

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Or just get up, thatā€™s the best way. Seriously, itā€™s awful compared to the way the 272 remote volume worked, in that it just worked - volume was readily and easily adjustable without hoping or guessing and without suddenly waking the house up. We all know that what sounds quite reasonable in the early evening is window-shattering at 3 am. Itā€™s exacerbated by the 252 having a much narrower usable volume band, from perhaps 8 oā€™clock to not much more than 10.

When I need exercise I just play some vinyl.

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Agree, Iā€™d rather go for a bike ride than put an LP on.

If you press the volume twice, (one quick tap and then press and hold), it moves at half speed.

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Wow. And itā€™s even in the manual! :slight_smile: Thank you! (and works with system automation too, though I need a bit more practice)

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We were not quite at 500 posts and you let the cat out the bag

Seriously - thanks didnā€™t know that :+1:

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I have found this short double tap to be the useful default behaviour with the 282 and 252 remotes, but I am still struggling with volume control via the NDX2 remote and system automation on the 252. My iPhone seems to respond a bit erratically to my finger jabs, too, so my fingers might just be closer to sausage dimensions rather than the quill proportion and more subtle nudge that better suit the NDX2 remote.

Have you tried setting the max volume (settings / audio settings / max vol) in the naim app to 50%? That should make the slider less sensitive and help to eliminate unwanted jumps.

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Am I missing something again? There is no slider with system automation, nor is there a settings / audio settings / max vol

No, you are not missing anything, the advice given by @IainW does not apply to system automation attached components. The app has no way of knowing where the volume control is set as all it does is send simple up/down commands to the pre-amp.

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In that case I offer my apologies, I only have a Muso using the app and the max vol works brilliantly to stop you going too far. Iā€™m auditioning an NDX2 next week so Iā€™m actually a little disappointed it wonā€™t regulate the vol like the muso. Maybe ill need an S1-ND :wink:

You would have to enable variable volume on the NDX2. Which works, and members have reported that the (somewhat simplistic, 32-bit) digital volume control does not affect their SQ. You would have to try. (Apparently, the streamerā€™s variable digital volume is mostly there to satisfy some Apple or Google requirements for Airplay or Chromecast certification, or something like this)

Most people enable system automation, so that the NDX2 controls the preā€™s volume pot. In this case, there is no volume slider in the app, just +/- buttons (for the reason explained by trickydickie) and no max. volume. You gain the convenience, though, that the NDX2 remote can control the volume of all inputs (as it really controls the preā€™s volume pot)

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In the last 3 years Iā€™ve gone 202/200 ā†’ 282/250 ā†’ 252/300 and it ends there.

The only time 500 enters my vocabulary is when someone mentions that motor race that happens in Indianapolis :joy:

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Yep, if I decide to go to the 300 thatā€™s where I stop too, and very happilyā€¦

The 500 on up is luckily just a bank robbery too far!

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thanks IainW. this is brilliant!

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Wellā€¦the die is castā€¦300DR arrives Monday (fingers xā€™d as itā€™s my only day off).

Soā€¦will my 252 never have been so happy?

Endgame in sight?

Going to be a lonnng weekend!

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Give it 5 - 7 months, then youā€™ll start wondering what a 552 can do if the 252 is that good. Probably.

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