4.8 update and sound quality

Let’s be clear Litemotiv. We will never agree. I see no point to discuss further. You have the same speech on all topics where people share impressions on sound quality. I think we have well enough understood you.

It was rather a joke from me , but wanted to say that all is possible. Some hear improvements, other a decrease, other an improvement when there should not be, other never hear changes, be it with a different switch, a powerline or analog cable, other are deaf, other hear strange noises in their head…etc…

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Best leave it there I think. Thanks.

Yes you have told me a few times that i don’t belong on these forums because i’m not an audiophile (according to your definition), and that i should go elsewhere. So i think we understand our differences.

It’s okay with me though, i have no problem with opposing views or having a discussion about them, even if some differences are more difficult to bridge than others.

Yes, absolutely, no reason to discuss same things ad eternam. If in few days no other person ask about the update or share his impressions, better will be to close that thread then.

I will not comment further. All was said and said again and again. Hope we will share together on other topics.

I said leave it there please both of you. Thanks.

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Personally I find that the more attention you pay to fine detail in the system the more you will hear subtle changes. Perhaps this is partly to blame for some hearing night and day differences and some hearing nothing at all.

That’s probably a part of it, but the problem is that the brain developed to find differences and patterns, and it wants to find them so badly that it invents them if they are not there. If one stared at the white noise on TV screens of old for long enough, one started to see patterns too. If certain people played Beatles records backwards for long enough, they started to hear satanic messages. If you record a spoken word or two and loop the recording, you start to hear different words after a minute or two. It’s just how the brain works, and it’s the reason mankind invented statistics instead of relying on gut feeling

Yes I have done blind test with 4.4 to 4.6 and 4.7 but the difference is so obvious in my system (in advantaged for 4.4)
But when it comes to 4.8 no blind test from my side, but it is much better then 4.6 and 4.7 in terms of PRaT.
4.8 is different from 4.4 and as soon as my Snaxo is out of break-in period I will decide which will be in my NDS.

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I don’t know who are the happiest, those of us hearing the difference or those who don’t :sweat_smile:

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Maybe there’s a study out there saying that people believing in religion are happier

I could hear a significant uplift in SQ, better sound stage ,highs certainly more focus and more forward and urgent presentation.

Then I remembered the day I did the update, I dragged a fairly large glass top coffee table near my N272/555 so the laptop could be settled down. After the update SWMBO suggested we relocate said table a few feet back to better suit our needs.
MMMM I moved it back to it’s orginal position whilst she was out last night, and the focus in the voice disappeared. I’l wait until Sat to see if I can fine tune further.

Funny how things work out…now looking at other reflective surfaces in the room.

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My belly grew so much during the lockdown, the way the music now is reflected from the belly to my ears makes a huge difference. Everything sound more fat and wobbling than before.

But yes, there have been differences between firmware versions in the sound, too, in the past.

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All this talk of change and no change I really can’t tell anymore. Memory is a short thing and I seem to have misplaced it. But hey, who cares when it sounds this utterly and beguilingly beautiful.

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There are studies into the effect of religious belief and organised religion on people’s happiness and emotional wellbeing. From my recollection, religious belief doesn’t appear to consistently improve happiness, but being a member of an established organised religion did appear to have a beneficial impact on peoples mood and emotional wellbeing.

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Due to Antonovskys SOC (sense of coherence) I’d suspect

Same same here. I can only remember the feeling first hours of playtime and it just made me feel extremely good and wanting to play music over and over again. I for sure don’t feel like this with all new stuff that goes into the system so I’m 100% something happened for the better. And that’s enough for me really. It was also for FREE :sunglasses:

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Thanks, that’s what I thought

Wow, if you don’t trust your own ears/judgement then you have bigger issues than a hifi upgrade to deal with. What next, you don’t trust your eyes either?

Some can hear the difference and clearly some can’t and thats fine. Those that can can enjoy a better suited sound to them and those that can’t can enjoy what they already have.

We now have members coming on here declaring they can hear a difference but feel the need to note it may be expectation bias possibly feeling they may be subject to ridicule. Thats a real shame

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