If I might offer a suggestion…
If anyone is familiar (or not) with the original Straight No Chaser Magazine (From World Jazz Jive to Interplanetary Sounds : Ancient To Future – 1988 – 2009)
A thread inspired by that could be good.
A fairly broad minded coverage of non mainstream “black” music. It brought together a lot of forward looking Jazz and Jazz influenced music along with all manner of dance, latin,african, reggae and world flavours inclusively.
The kind of stuff you might hear on Giles Petersons show (he was a contributor)
It’s just a matter of interest Dreadatthcontrols. No division in my mind.
My tastes cover jazz from 1969 to nowadays. But I never listen jazz from the 40’s, 50’s, or 60’s. Just not in my interest. Nothing more.
I want today to discover new albums, artists, currents, innovation in jazz music. So the reason I don’t follow What you are listening thread , where the same Beatles, Dire Straits or Led Zeppelin are continuously posted.
Neither want to read always Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, Hank Mobley or Monk.
But each persons has his interests. No problem for that.
OK - I have commented on your new thread, but I see what you are getting at. However, I still think there will be a loss of focus with multiple threads. In any case your thread asking what jazz recordings people have discovered is just as likely to throw up a posting about a pre-1969 recording as something more contemporary.
Can you suggest me a different title ? I don’t know how really to write, and my English is limited. But I agree, a better title, pointing nowadays jazz would be better.
I made a suggestion above fwiw, maybe broaden it out a bit so it’s not just another take on a Jazz thread?
You kindly mentioned before the Jazz Re:Freshed thread that I started but it didnt work out, only one or two people posted on it and it expired. Similarly The Reggae Thread, I’ve tried to keep that going but, pardon the pun, it’s really ended up an echo chamber for my own posts.
I really think it could be a good idea to bring it all together along the lines of the Straight No Chaser suggestion above.
Only after 1968/ 1969, with the help principally of Miles Davis, or people like Gato Barbieri, and some others, jazz opened to new forms, influences, trends, instruments, …incorporating rock, african, Caribbean, Indian…music.
It was a great departure with albums like In a Silent Way for example.
Sorry - this discussion is getting split and it was my fault.
I like the idea of having a less straitjacketed version of modern jazz - I think I used to look at Straight no Chaser a long time ago. However, musical styles have proliferated even further since then and it is difficult to define a thread topic.
I did think of electric Miles as a reason for starting in 1969ish. However, I wonder FR if you really want to discuss contemporary records that people are buying now.
I didn’t understood why you wonder if I really want to discuss contemporary jazz?
I enjoyed a lot the Dreadatthcontols thread on Jazz Refreshed. It’s more the jazz I like to discover, even if I don’t share all the albums in it.
Conceived as a magazine of “world Jazz Jive” that was attuned to the “Freedom Principle”, Straight No Chaser rejected boundaries, was devoted those musicians who created the foundation of what we have today, and welcomed the spirit of the new.
That meant that jazz, jungle, funk, acid jazz, mbalax, samba, salsa, merengue, soukous, hip hop, rai, nu-jazz, trip hop, ska, reggae, mento, mambo, rumba, gnawa, garifuna, afro bloco, chimurenga, cumbia, vodoun, afrobeat, deep house, bruk beat … amongst others… sat side by side. It was a heady but exciting mix that never failed to thrill when it came together.
It’s not what I feel when I listen to it. But maybe you are write. I feel not myself in new territories like with Bitches Brew or in a silent way, Pharoah Sanders/ Khama, The Inner Mounting Flame ( Mahavishnu orchestra.1971)…These albums are a complete departure.
@frenchrooster
I appreciate English is not your first language.
I’m not referring to the album Straight No Chaser but the magazine.
Look back carefully at the posts and the link to the article about Straight No Chaser. I’m trying to suggest that a broader thread inspired by the philosophy of that magazine could be an interesting way to go.
Ah ok, missed your post. So what would be the real idea of the title you propose.
Because if I choose « straight no chaser », it will not speak to everybody.
But I agree with you on the concept. Just have not a definitive idea on the appropriate title.
@Richard.Dane, could you please close that thread, which is now finished. Thanks.
The spirit of it can continue in the « which jazz albums have you discovered … » , centered on actual jazz, or in the main Jazz thread.