Do I need an external power supply for a 282?

If you are using a 300dr, then you will need a HC or two. Or a SCDR. Decide now how deep your pockets are now. This will help whether you go SCDR or just HC.

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I’m using a HCDR with my 282/300DR and it sounds excellent. I am yet to decide whether to go for a supercap upgrade which can result in a slippery slope to a 252, but if I had to stop where I am I’d still be happy as this set up is certainly no slouch - and it shouldn’t be with a new price of around £15k!! By the way I bought my 282 as an ex demo from a dealer at a nice discount. Its worth shopping around!

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Well, the ex demo I have found is a year old and £3.5k so that sounds quite decent.

I just dont understand what the NAPSC2 that comes with the 282 is for?? Also, do I use it alongside the HCDR?

Yes. The NAPSC powers the lights and control circuits. In other words, non signal path components.

An external power supply is required for the actual preamp side that carries audio signal. So you must have both a NAPSC and an external power supply. The sole exception is when using with a NAP200 because that power amp has a DC feed that runs back to the preamp.

The PDF manual for Naim preamps shows how this is connected together. You’ll notice that the NAP300 will not connect directly to the 282 at all but to the FlatCap, HiCap, or Supercap. Those power supplies not only power the preamp but are the bridge between preamp and power amp.

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Thank you. Naim have a knack for getting customers confused :grin:

Yes.

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The SNAIC cables (both 4 and 5 pin versions) are shielded. So if your Naim power amp has DIN input then the signal is shielded all the way from the preamp. However, the 250 (for example) has an XLR input and the signal lead supplied with it is a length of unshielded 3 core mains flex. I used a simple DIN to XLR adapter so I could use the shielded 4 pin SNAIC with the 250. I wouldn’t go back to the unshielded lead.

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Another spanner in the works here but is it worth getting a 282+HCDR and trading in my Nova?

Hope it helps used a 282 with both HCDR and SC -

HCDR is a lovely PSU into the 282 and works well, however the SC showed the kind of detailed musical detail the 282 can offer - the best combo IMO

enjoy the music

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Well as a preamp, the 282/HCdr will work miles better than the Nova with a NAP300. The Nova is wasting the NAP300’s abilities to a large degree and the 282/HCdr is probably the minimum preamp you’d really want to pair with the NAP300.

But the 282 is just an analogue preamp. Has no digital inputs or streaming and no headphone amp. So functionally, it is not a 1:1 comparison with a Nova, A balanced system would be something like NDX2/XPSdr/282/HCdr but expense-wise that is a totally different kettle of fish. There is not really a cheap way of bringing your system up to the level of your power amp and speakers.

You could always do what I am really fond of: “downgrade to upgrade”. Lose the Focals and the NAP300. Get the 282, an NDX2 (as a source and preamp will blow the Nova out of the water), and then a NAP200dr (just discontinued so bargains can be found and it will power the 282) and a lesser pair of speakers that can be driven properly by the 200. Aside from the NAPSC, whcih can be tucked away under the rack, that is an elegant 3 box system that performs superbly.

I think you’d be amazed at the improvement to be gained from upgrading the right bits while downgrading the others.

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I assume I could buy a streamer (Bluesound or something else) and attach it to the 282? If that is possible then that would get the streaming sorted. My other sources are a TT and CDplayer.

I’m not sure I would want to get rid of the 300DR because I think i would lose quite a bit of money there. It’s a couple of years old so not sure what it would be worth nowadays.

You really need a minimum of an NDX, ideally with an XPS DR to use with a 282/HiCap DR/300.

Anything less will be ruthlessly exposed by the amplifier.

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I run Bluesound Node players in to a Nait5i, an 82/250 and the scdr/252/300dr. The node will be a fine source. Better if you can later add a Qutest or other quality Dac, but sufficient on their own.

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I’m not sure i woud want to spend NDX money for a streamer though. Currently the Nova is attached to the 300DR and acts as both a pre and streamer. I’m quite happy with the sound quality that comes out of it.

The only reason that I have been contemplating the 282 is because I have been advised that I am missing out on the analogue sound of my TT (since Nova is digital only) and also that the 282 would allow the 300DR to shine and show its capabilities more?
If it wasnt for the analogue sid eof it I would have stuck with the Nova+300DR combination.

I assume there wont be a huge difference in sound between the BSNode and the Nova (as streamers)?

I have never heard the Nova so I can’t say. The Bluesound Node with a Qutest is a particularly fine source with the 82 and 250, as it is with the 252 and 300DR. I will only replace it with an NDX when Naim have integrated the Amazon HD service.

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Yes

Thanks for this.

Well, I pulled the plug and went for it. Got a brand new 282+HCDR for £5250 (20% off) and traded in my 3 yr old Nova for £2850. I thought it was quite a good deal.

Will choose a streamer (separate thread) and that should keep me happy and give me much better sound quality (at least through the TT and CD player). As for streaming I mainly use Spotify so should not suffer any reduction in sound quality by using a non-Naim streamer.

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I did wonder about this. The 282 has no phono stage so you would still need yet another box. A Naim Stageline, to connect to the 282.

The other option is, don’t let the money burn a hole in your pocket. Don’t buy anything (except more music) and play the longer game planning the system upgrade.