Ethernet Switch and Cables Mania

Ethernet Switch and Cables Mania


This is the legendary :wink: Cisco WS C2960 internally.

:small_blue_diamond:The name has @Bailyhill suggested.

This should be a thread about all the exciting and interesting things happening within the…
:black_small_square:Switch and
:black_small_square:Ethernet-cables world.

@BertBird added in pictures in another thread about a new Anzus switch,.Uptone also comes with a new switch in the fall.
So,.much exciting is happening in this area,.this we can discuss and speculate on in this thread.

/Peder🙂

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I would suggest to also talk about Ethernet cables in this thread. I would like to test in the coming period my Audiquest Vodka cable against the Chord Music Ethernet cable and would be interest what others have to say about it. Does it makes sense to spend so much money on a cable, what would I gain with upgrading from a sound perspective…

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What I by the way expect is a better flow of the music and in some pieces less harshness

:small_blue_diamond:@BertBird,…I changed the title after your suggestion.
So we can also discuss Ethernet-cables vs switch etc.

/Peder🙂

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Thanks Peder–bailyhill

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Thanks @Peder always wondered what was inside and scared to look

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:small_blue_diamond:Here you see a picture of the one of Simon In Suffolk’s recommended…
• Cisco WS-C2960-8TC-L’s SMPS.

We have discovered that some who bought their Cisco 2960 on ebay,.and that these Cisco’s have not gone through any control-programs…have had inferior soundquality.

Then it has been shown that the fault has been in the power-supply…See picture above.
These SMPS can be purchased new or used from some companies that specialize in Cisco,or used Cisco.
The option is,.that a knowledgeable company makes a recapp on your SMPS.

It is often on Cisco 2960 from 2007-2008 that this has occurred to us,.later manufactured has not yet had this problem.

:small_blue_diamond:@obsydian,…Only for you below :grin:.

:small_orange_diamond:Important: These images are for those of you who are interested in how a Cisco looks internally.
If you have no knowledge,.Do Not Open Your Cisco.
• For those of you with knowledge,.there is a cable (see picture) between your SMPS and your Audioboard.
Pull it up and down 8-10 times to remove oxides from the contact-surfaces.

/Peder🙂

What is the precise part number(s) of the preferred C2960 switches?

:small_blue_diamond:@Bart,…It says in my last post,.but rehearses here.
• Cisco WS-C2960-8TC-L.

It is with this it started,and which most people buy.
But @Simon-in-Suffolk who is the real technical expert,.also uses one with the designation 3560 I think it was.
But it is better that he himself comments on this.

But the Cisco WS-C2960-8TC-L is a secure purchase.

• I installed a Cisco WS-C2960-8TC-L in a friends music-system this weekend that was.
He didn’t see what I did,.so when I started playing,he asked if I had changed the signal-source too.
So great was the difference in soundquality this time,.in that music-system.

/Peder🙂

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Some may find this useful.

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As long as it’s a Cisco Catalyst switch, I don’t think you’ll go far wrong. Just stick to the 8 port models, rather than the larger ones which are fan cooled, unless they are hidden out of earshot.

Yeah the 48-port models are NOT coming into my home!!

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Yes, they are big ugly monsters! You can just about hide the 8 port switches under a sofa of somewhere.

Nothing IMO. Why not use fully qualified cables such as Blue Jeans Cables Cat 5e or Cat 6?

Chord Company music are not proper Ethernet cables, Chord Company has to call them streaming cables.

AQ Vodka just about meet Ethernet standards.

BJC Cat 5e and Cat 6 meet the standards perfectly, not only that, but they test each cable they sell and provide a test certificate.

That said when a controlled test was conducted at the Las Vegas HiFi Show between a $3 non complaint patch lead and AQ Vodka, listeners could not tell them apart.

So me, I’ll continue with my nice looking little HP switch (though I admit a well specified Cisco can sound as good) and Blue Jeans Cables and enjoy the best sound quality I have ever achieved from streaming: almost as good as playing a CD or vinyl record.

However, listen for yourself and decide if you can hear an improvement. I had a hearing test today and happily passed with flying colours, but I still can’t hear any improvement from boutique data cables and different switches. I can’t help it if I’m lucky as Bob Dylan sung.

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Cat 6a as good?
Can only find blue jeans. Asked on amazon stateside…

I thought you gentlemen would be getting excited about the new kid on the block. External clock ref input too so plenty of scope for endless tweaking with cables, clocks, clock power supplies etc etc…

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Not really, it simply is providing a quality physical layer decoupling… so use a quality switch like any if the Cisco catalyst switches, including the obsolete ones and you should be good.
The real additional benefit is Ethernet data isolation… plenty in geeky network circles on that, almost nothing in audiophile circles as it needs bespoke setup and an understanding of several network protocols… but provides true Ethernet data noise decoupling. You cant just throw money at it unless you employ services of a network engineer.

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Any of the 8 port devices will be good from the 2960 or 3560 ranges including obsolete ones.
The extra letters are irrelevant as most here are simply plug and play as a simple unmanaged switch

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Please can I be excused from the excitement. I get really excited about new Beatles remixes and Van Der Graaf Generator albums, but I simply cannot feel the same sense of wonder over a switch or a router. I know I’m strange.

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Blue Jeans Cables patch leads with no horrible metal connectors in sight. I order from BJC UK, but the order is fulfilled by BJC in Seattle.

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