Tried the Degritter cleaning fluid with Humminguru. I should have used 0.7ml but accidentally used 1ml. Plan to use the same water for about 5 record cleans. Compared to the previous Triton x100 surfactant clean, the Degritter solution also improved mid range and higher frequency information retrieval.
Some news @Suedkiez ? Still working well? Did you tried some additional fluids?
In 1 month I will order mine.
Since today, November 18, everybody can order on the site.
Interesting, Do you run it through another clean cycle with pure water or does it not matter!
Not yet, have been occupied with the speakers. I did order Ilfotol though, this thread made me do it
And I did receive a letter from FedEx with customs payment. It was 67 euros per unit. It’s still a bargain though
All my records have been cleaned already with a wet cleaning method but Humminguru provides a deeper clean, which impresses me. I would recommend a first clean using wet clean if the LP is very dirty before using the Humminguru.
£56 for the UK for shipping and customs
Shipping was included in the Kickstarter pledge, at least it was for me. The 67 euros was just import duties/taxes
There’s a review of the Degritter, in Hifi Advice site.
The reviewer writes on the Degritter fluid:
“ Every Degritter machine comes with a bottle of 40ml cleaning fluid concentrate. It’s not mandatory to use it, but it does have certain benefits. The concentrate is made out of anionic surfactants which help remove the dirt. It’s safe to use and won’t harm the vinyl. The recommended dosage is 1 to 2 ml of concentrate per water tank. This creates a solution where the surface tension is lowered enough to allow ultrasonic energy to break the water more easily while anionic molecules are delicately extracting the dirt from adjacent surfaces.
Here’s what the cleaning fluid can do:
- Further improves the cleaning effect
- Shortens the drying time
- Creates an antistatic layer”
My point was that if your using chemicals in the HumninGuru then this will leave residue on the record, so was just checking if you run it through a second cycle with pure water? Also off course it will void the warranty as they are not recommending any.
Looking forward to mine when it eventually arrives…
Sorry misunderstood. I used to clean in pure distilled water for wet cleaning but had not considered it for Humminguru. To be honest at £270 without shipping I’m not to bothered about the warranty backing a kickstarter is a risk in any case.
Just heard my HummingGuru has shipped. Exciting.
Can you share some instances where the Kirmuss improved on a 5 beep AD cleaning? I have been considering using them together as well, but worry I’ll get to ADD about a clean goat hair brush;). The AD took that away and performance has been stellar save 2 failures in 12 years.
just ordered mine.
In someways it’s a gamble but I don’t have anything at the moment and seems to be a very good price.
I got mine last week and was washing the first 20 records. I am absolutely content with it. Good value for the money.
Thanks @Suedkiez for all your help!
I have now experimented with fluids. It is difficult to compare because I don’t have the same records twice. So I had to play one, then clean it (which I can’t do twice with different fluids either) and then try to compare. But for what it’s worth I did my best with several records.
They were all in good condition, more or less new and played once or twice, and had already been cleaned with my previous ultrasonic bath (using distilled water, some isopropyl alcohol, and a drop of dishwasher agent).
Now I listened and cleaned each as follows:
- Listened to record.
- Cleaned with HumminGuru and only distilled water
- Listened to record
- Cleaned with HumminGuru using a liquid from 400 ml distilled water, 10 ml isopropyl alcohol, and 2 drops of Ilfotol. Then another quick clean to rinse with distilled water
- Listened again
I thought that the difference was on the small side and with the work and time passing between runs it is difficult to be sure. Nevertheless, it seemed to me that after the second cleaning cycle the background noise was indeed further reduced and the sound simply better & more immediate & more natural.
Given the limited means of comparison I cannot tell you whether this was simply caused by having more cleaning cycles, by the liquid, or by expectation bias (the work must be worth something!). However, using the liquid was not a very annoying process* and I think I will stick with using the liquid with alcohol & Ilfotol for the time being.
* I purchased a pipette for mixing the liquid, and a funnel and two bottles to store it (one bottle liquid, one bottle rinsing water) if I just wash a record or two. That’s quite handy
A few tips I’ve picked up which do seem to work
- warm distilled water to 25 degrees centigrade before use
- degas with the 2 minute cleaning option
- use the G-Sonic fluid as the cleaning and wetting agent
Spare parts now available at the Humminguru online shop.
All Humminguru accessories now in stock but order before 20th January to avoid Chinese New Year break
To not close the thread, as no new post since January, I post a new information and a question.
Humming guru is launching a new product, with a pre-order, a product that cleans the stylus.
Are you tempted @Suedkiez ? Have you seen it ?
Thanks for the info. It’s a smart thing with the built-in gauge (though the visible gauge pad and the weight may indicate that it’s essentially the 5 euro gauge from Amazon that you also have). Ultrasonic stylus cleaning sounds interesting, but for me, personally, it is not as much of a game changer as the RCM was. I already have the (expensive) Rega Atlas gauge and the DS Audio ST-50 cleaner, which seems to work well. I’ll keep an eye on this but waiting for more info.