Utter rubbish being spouted here - you should just stop digging a hole.
The chip has generic SW on it and it does not matter if the chip has a wire connected to a physical interface or not - the SW is loaded on the chip the same as in the case where another naim item that does have it connected to a physical HDMI interface. The SW is active for an interface on the chip that cannot be actually accessed in the case of ND555, but it is still defaulted active and on - I found it should be off by trying it and hearing that it was better.
Others tried it and found the same.
You did not try it or want to do so, which is fine, but to then attack people that did and accuse them of being mentally ill is poor behaviour on your part.
That is a very foolish post, if you donāt mind me saying so. Suggesting that a sonic change is in someoneās imagination is nothing remotely like suggesting that someone is mentally ill. Mental illness is very, very serious and requires urgent support. And I absolutely have not attacked anyone. Letās keep things in proportion.
Fair enough, but what DB was trying to tell you is that wires are not required for an effect. It could be (this is mere speculation from zero knowledge on my part) that HDMI being on leads to periodic check for a non-null input every so often and that leads to more processor work which leads to ā¦ Like why WAV files streamed locally sound better than FLAC files streamed locally even if the latter is lossless because of the extra steps in decompressing the files (at least thatās one explanation I found). I found that DBās suggestions always made a change, sometimes very big, sometimes small. Most of the times I agreed with his judgement (as to whether it improved or not), sometimes I disagreed, but there was an effect. I have heard for 40+ years that āX cannot make a differenceā and found that the same people when they do an A/B test with me hear the difference :).
On the other hand, the mind is a powerful thing and plays tricks on us. Right now, it tells me itās not snowing, itās sunny and 77F :).
And thanks for being a beta tester. We all appreciate the work all beta testers do on our behalf.
As I said, Iāve not attacked anyone. It must be in your own mind!!
My sincere hope is that the new firmware, once fully tested and tuned for SQ, will be satisfactory to everyone and the whole idea of needing to tweak things vanishes into the mists of time.
As I understood it the HDMI off is just removing the icon. Itās not toggling something on the hardware side of things. General. Itās not always easy to decode what engineers are trying to say especially if the one receiving the information knows nothing about electronics. Not targeted against anyone.
There is no icon for this on ND555, but turning it off via the old Webclient did change the SQ for the better.
I had tried the settings and chose what gave best results - they are easy to hear.
The fact that others do not find any change, or do not want there to be a change, or think it should not be allowedā¦or whatever, is not relevant for me.
I just chose what works best and shared this and others could decide for themselves.
It seems that people deciding for themselves offends some people and they would rather have someone tell them what to think, preferably along the lines of their own prejudices and to demean others as a sideswipe while they are at it.
But everyone can have an off-day and Iāll put HH in the ignore pool for a couple of weeks. Iāve found his posts fiesty and opinionated before, but never so condescending - which is a shame.
To really know if itās a trick mind, you have first to listen and compare the sound between different firmwares. However, as you have already confessed earlier, you encounter a severe hearing loss.
So I question your ability to have an opinion on that matter. I hope you understand me.
There is no way of knowing is there? Unless you de-compile the firmware and spend an awful lot of time trying to understand it.
Using switches may not have an effect hardware-wise (e.g turning off HDMI on a device that does not have an HDMI port), but it can have an effect on software.
For example: Buy a new laptop. Most of them are loaded with manufacturer specific software that most people do nāt need or use. Even software for hardware that is not installed (e.g. CD / DVD drives etc.) I always remove all that stuff as soon as I can. I can guarantee you that it makes a big difference on the performance of the laptop when all that unused stuff is removed.
A firmware switch could work like that: unload modules or drivers that are not needed, use less memory and CPU cycles etc.
I decided for myself not to change any settings in the web-client, but I can totally understand if people try.
Thatās an interesting one. When I was at Naim recently, we all sat in their listening room while Paul tweaked the firmware settings on his laptop. Rather surprisingly, I could clearly hear the impact of every tweak. Not only that, my conclusions were the same as everyone else in the room, including those from Naim who do the actual listening tests when the firmware is tuned. So donāt dismiss my abilities too easily! With my hearing aids my hearing is probably a lot more acute than many other Forum members.
Sorry to not understand then. You said much earlier that you can hear on only one ear , since your severe infection some years ago. And half in the other ear.
So I donāt see how hearing aids can restore 100 % hearing ability? I probably missed something.
They canāt, but I can hear differences in firmware. I hear differences in Ethernet cables. I can hear the effect of a Burndy cable touching the floor. Surely thatās sufficient. People with disabilities shouldnāt be written off.
You acknowledge the point that settings do make a difference, so why is it you are telling others what they should or shouldnāt be doing, or whatās good for them?
webclient removal is not a positive step, it is taking away a tool that is indispensable to making the streamer actually sound good for no valid reason.
If there is an underlying security vulnerability there, then fix it.
@Protegimus to be clear here, this is nothing to do with Naim but rather coming from Stream Unlimited. The Web Interface is Stream Unlimitedās and AFAIK Naim have no control or say over it. As others have mentioned, it probably should never have been made so accessible in the first place, and certainly Naim have always advised users against its use, but I guess thatās water under the bridge now. If SU have found thereās a potential vulnerability by having it accessible and have been advised to remove it then thatās their call. Nothing Naim (or anybody else) can do about that.
Hi @Richard.Dane yes, Iām aware the WebUI is part of StreamUnlimited NP800 feature set - if you look closely at the PC or smartphone image it is identical to what we see:
It would appear unlikely that StreamUnlimited will make that unavailable as it is a fundamental part of the product set, just as the StreamSDK is the basis for the device UI and Control App for the mobile app.
