Instability of my NC System

All lights burn out over time led as well.
I have all my Naim gear set to display off unless changing something.
Only the logos are on but they will die eventually.

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That’s because they are so focused on monetising your life, based on spying on you, that they have to overcomplicate their hardware and software and commercial relationships to the nth degree. :grinning_cat:

(AKA enshitification).

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Now that the switches on the back of my NC 332/NVCTT/NC250 have just been moved to instant on, from system automation, things sound somewhat different. I guess my ears will need to adjust? It is like breaking in new components. The switches had been set to system automation since I purchased the gear 18 months ago.

As others have said, for improved musical performance, it’s better to keep the power fully-on, as this keeps the transformers and circuitry warm. Going in and out of any reduced power state, to ‘off/standby’ isn’t recommended. OK, you will get reduced power bills and the polar bears will thank you, but it’s really not how this stuff is designed to work.

IME, Naim kit when cold/lukewarm can sound detailed and mid-band orientated. When fully warmed-up, the bass and weight comes in. And warm-up can take a few days, with some Naim kit much longer.

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That depends…My Nait XS3 is clearly designed to be always-on. My ND5XS2 is clearly designed to go in network-standby. That’s how the factory settings are configured.

I imagine most of us on here will expire before our Naim LEDs…

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Remember you have options on the brightness setting too @Jaybar . FWIW my system is ‘Always On’, brightness at ‘Dim’, ‘Always Stay Connected’ ‘on’ and System Automation ‘Wireless’.

Hope all remains resolved.

G

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The naming is odd. Yes, in NC, “instant on” would be better labeled as “always on” or perhaps just “on”. The other setting labeled as “ auto standby” or something similar.

Compare it to a Nait 50, where the switch is labeled “ instant on” then “on or off”. It should be labeled “ Goes into s/by”. Of course, on the Nait, it only goes to sleep, with no wake up function.

I have a nait 50 and Nap350s. I understand why the functionality is different between the two, but the wording is not clear. This and other threads have demonstrated that.

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I hope to pass mine on. :wink:

Instant on is not a traditional standby; it keeps the audio electronics powered, so when you turn units back on, there is no warm-up time needed. This basically means the LEDs, etc are powered down. The NC manuals have a section explaining this

So why not just call it “on”. Its not as if there is another option to have it fully powered up. I think naim have attempted to be unnecessarily clever. Even more so when the Nait has the option to set instant on to off !

If it’s any comfort I’ve had my Naim kit powered up since 1986. The only exception is power cuts, house moves and servicing. Everything is still working fine.

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These are the choices I have.

G

Leave on, move on.

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I think in USA they call it circuit breaker panel!

Can you turn it off that way so it resets?

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Because it isn’t fully on. It saves a few watts compared to being fully on.

On the notarial will it will be written “ I give my working diode to …” ?

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“The (led) logos will die eventually”

Yes true in some sort of pedantic sense but the question is what exactly does ‘eventually’ mean? I have used my olive 250 24x7 for well over 30 years and the logo lights are fine.

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The user will in most cases die before the LED does.

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Internet says LEDs fade gradually over time rather than burn out. Should last for 10 year before reducing to 70% of original brightness.

My 2012 Nap 250.2 LED is quite faint. Probably could get it replaced. Prefer stealth mode anyway.

Not sure what the difference is between turning it off to preserve the LED, opposed to having it burnt out. Maybe someone studied philosophy can weigh in.