A bit more civility would not go amissā¦ 
Lets try to agree to disagree, where we need to - and respect others viewsā¦ 
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Itās a good thing they did, otherwise the tech industry might be even more monopolistic than it is now. Also, Apple made a number of key innovations which forced rivals to compete with and improve on. Their activities also helped create and support an entire ecosystem of support businesses (cases, headphones, software, apps, cables etc etc) , providing hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people with paid employment. On the whole, Apple surviving is more positive than negative.
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I have a small Apple position (original $6k investment) and over the years the gains have paid for my speakers, NDX2, 252, 300DR, a Mu-so2, and a custom built titanium bicycle. I still have 5x what I put into it.
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I agree Ian.
Name-calling is not respectful disagreement or useful discussion.
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Thing is, nobody knows what engineering improvements Linn has or hasnāt made to this LP12-50, because no announcement about specs has been made yet. Something will be unveiled in the next few days, apparently.
That is definitely playing safe, Skeptikal! 
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You donāt want any contaminants in the hole that will lead to much grief later. 
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I think you miss my point. I disagree with a cost hike 2 fold without any real engineering improvement and mostly minimal changes to the looks.
I agree looks are important but they should go hand in hand with real improvements that enhance our enjoyment of music. I donāt know what the plinth brings but I agree with some others not a performance increase to justify the cost
Thank you for pointing that out and I believe I did mention that. I will ask my Linn elite dealer when I talk to him next
Thank youā¦ 
(Anyone can āflagā posts they considerā¦ inappropriate. This might include School Boy Humourā¦)
Yes, if thereās nothing other than a better-sounding plinth and a good hinge (Iāve never had an issue with the old hinges) and a circular on/off button, Iād certainly agree with you re cost.
I would like to know more about the plinth as a possible future standalone āupgradeā, but happy as is, really.
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Nah, the posts arent important enough to āflagāā¦just irritating.
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Ah, thanks for confirmation as I wasnāt sure which arm it was as they have a few. Interesting re the Innovation, Iāve found that model on their website but canāt find a reference to the āWoodā variant, or is that just a term referring to the Innovation Panzerholz construction? Either way, a lovely deck if you choose to plunge!
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For mere mortals, you can put together an excellent sounding LP12, assembled from good used parts for very sensible money. Possibly 5% to 7.5% of the price of the LP12 50.
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Yeah, I think what they call the Innovation now is what used to be called the Innovation Wood. It has the double plinth. It sits just below the Innovation Master (with the quad plinth), and is basically that table but without the lower plinths and magnetic sub-platter. The lower models are the Innovation Basic and Innovation Compact.
I can guarantee you that Minions and MC elements donāt go together too well despite feeding them bananaās.
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I think most are missing the point here !!!
This is not about the LP12 50, it is all about bring the Jon Iveās name to the Linn brand, and it is also not meant for an average turnable user, it is a marketing opportunity to grab the attention from some who have never heard of vinyl/lp/turntable, let alone Linn / Naim, and also an opportunity to get some capital from those that even $60K is just some pocket money.
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Oh so a toy for the people that can flash the cash. Why not have a diamond studded outer platter while we are at it, then you could sell it for more than Ā£50000. I always thought Linn were serious to provide products to music lovers that enjoy decent quality music reproduction. Sorry but your post made me 
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They are serious about making products for the music lovers, and they are also serious about making money. But I think this one is more like a collectorās item.