LINN 50th Anniversary LP12

That was my journey too. TT2 to LP12. Carried forward an LVX onto the LP12. Good times :grinning:

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I remember being struck by the design of what I much later realized was Dieter Rams designed Braun HiFi as a kid on a visit to friends in Germany in the early '70s. Even at that early age, the clean uncluttered design made an impression that lasted.

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If the oil is drained so the wear surface can be visualised properly, itā€™s very easy to see how much wear is present, hence value. Any PX offered without doing this, taking proper time to look is flawed/pointless. KR, Peter

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I think it looks (especially in white) as if you asked a 1st generation AI to do ā€œAn LP12 in the style of Iveā€.

Of course, this was what was asked but it seems to have just applied stereotypical Iveā€™s touches , (Whiteness, rounded corners, etc.), to an essentially rectangular icon.

The LP12 amalgam of styles forces a curved-corner armboard into a half curved-corner space and doesnā€™t address the right angles on the plinth and lid.

The circular speed button - why?

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Is wear inevitable Peter (I had a very early Cirkus), or mainly due to other factors such as carelessness moving an LP12 or infrequent servicing (including oil changes).

If wear is inevitable we can see it as a consumable item like a belt or cartridge.

I guess I just have to wonder how awfully bad a physically worn bearing might actually sound compared to a brand new one - a worn one may well impart a sonic signature that you get used to I suppose which coule make a new bearing sound more jarring?

It encourages a sort of delusion of grandeur which increases prices in a stupid way with a knock on effect for the rest of the products. My impression at least which could be wrong. The result is that it annoys long term loyal customers that are no longer wishing to follow the price hikes. You just have to look at cartridge prices to see that

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I visited Linn last year or so and was mightily impressed.

The white version further above looks good to meā€¦however already have a cost effective version that sounds pretty damn good to meā€¦

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I think they will sell all 250ā€¦even if Ā£50K may seem a little ambitious.

Have a good weekend

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ChatGPT, please pimp my LP12

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Yeah - but so ugly only its mother would ā€¦

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the platters roundā€¦ :man_shrugging:

I think I agree with another poster @anon70766008 ? who said that it is likely that the Ā£50k deck is unlikely to better what a top klimaxed LP12 does. Just looking at the key features like the ā€œzero resonanceā€ plinth.
So I canā€™t see how these really improve things in a performance way apart from just a new curvy look :wink:

That said, I will do some LP12 upgrades in the future, which needs some careful thinking, but not at the moment. My new listening room is the number 1 priority

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Iā€™ve always loved Ramsā€™ design.

Used to have some Rams-designed shelving for Vitsoe in my London house, but had to leave it behind when I moved to the countryside.

Still use an orange Braun coffee grinder every morning, though. Itā€™s simplicity personified and a joy to use.

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As wireless speakers go, itā€™s not too bad looking I think. Better than most on the market. The sound is amazing, the best Iā€™ve ever heard from one of these devices, even if Iā€™m not in the market for this kind of gadget.

They missed a trick not going square.

Few of you will share my amazement at the stunning mundanity of the first LP12s on the market. Fluted afromosia plinth and ribbed rubber mat - it seem to hark back to something that would sit in a radiogram.

It gained icon status by never changing - much.

Iā€™d like better hinges. Iā€™d like an improved plinth.

I might not like not being able to upgrade (ITā€™S THE NEW ICON!) the plinth and top plates should Linn get around to improving these aspects of standard design.

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Yes it should, but its contamination when owners completely remove the inner platter for transportation to their retailer for set-up or moving house is the problem. The LP12 box stored in the loft or garage is pressed into use (as it should be) and owners have a bad habit of placing the inner platter into the lid packaging without cleaning the sticky (to dust and grit) oil off it, where it picks up all kinds of contamination. Often bearing wells are not covered and so dust/grit in the box gets into the oil by falling in :frowning: - IMHO its best to lift the inner platter just a little and wedge the inner platter - This way there is no chance of contamination finding itā€™s way into the bearing and wrecking it! The oil remains a good lubricant (no contamination) like this. However the oil, contaminated with dust/grit/whatever when the owner slides the inner platter back into the bearing without cleaning it is not lubricating oil in the perfect situation anymore. - It should be viewed similarly to lapping paste now, with particles circulating in the oil grinding away at those precious bearing surfaces! Iā€™ve written a packing guide to help owners avoid this issue and others when transporting their LP12s if you are interested. Hope this explains/highlights the problem. KR, Peter

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I suspect itā€™s not going to be too worried by a Klimax level model, but thatā€™s not the target market for this deck.

Still, if that means more investment into R&D for future upgrade paths for my Klimax DSM and the continued success for Linn then Iā€™m a happy chap :+1:

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The plinth has been overlooked for too long IMHO - Personally I canā€™t wait to pitch it against a Tangerine Stilettoā€¦ :sunglasses:

It should be noted that with upgrades, generally when one comes out for the LP12, itā€™s a big one! :face_with_monocle:

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Good to see a nod to the Solstice in that shot.

The Linn / Naim relationship still endures :wink:

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Thanks, I canā€™t honestly remember ever completely removing the inner platter and used the technique of removing it slightly and wedging foam or polystyrene underneath the inner platter.

I suspect there were a few occasions however when I re-sited the LP12 temporarily without doing so. Lesson learned!

Equally I donā€™t think the original plug to go into the bearing tube was ever supplied (if there was one) for the eventuality of moving/removing inner platter completely.