Loud cracks on vinyl replay, again!

Did you move the kit, clean, or do anything different? How about a bad signal cable, gray snaic? Black snaic?

I suggested the ground on superline because that is carrying the signal. In order to hear the pop, the superline has to deliver that sound. Just trying to think of anything.

And all seriousness, there may be something happening like when you shuffle your feet across the carpet when you were young, and walk up and touch your friend or sibling on the ear and give them one heck of a shock. Is your TT building up static electricity somehow all the sudden. Did your felt mat always come off the platter and stick to the album before you switched to the leather?

Scott

I know that feeling very, very well :roll_eyes:
But the randomness of the cracks is something that can easily be caused by a broken wire or bad solder and the slight twisting of the wiring while the arm travels across the LP.

No Iā€™ve not changed anything at all in the system.
Apart from swapping bits and bobs in and out to try to sort things, itā€™s the same as it was since 2010 when I changed my original Xerxes for a Xerxes 20plus. The last change of any significance was in 2017. We had new windows fitted so I took the opportunity to send everything back to base for a service and replaced the ageing cartridge.
To try and fix the problem Iā€™ve tried a different Snaic, borrowed a Stageline while the Superline was back at Salisbury, tried both Lavender and HiLine I/Cā€™s, removed the HiCap and powered straight from 252 and now changed the arm cable.
Iā€™ve never noticed an issue with static and the original mat never clung to the record when lifting it off the platter. I wet clean my albums using a Moth RCM and then store in anti static sleeves. Iā€™ve also tried using a zerostat and even using a grounding strap on my ankle.
The purchase of the leather mat was out of desperation really rather than any strong belief it would fix the issue.

I recently changed cartridge to one with an Ortofon replicant 100 stylus and I get enough static build up that I can feel it pulling back when lifting a record, hear it crackle and also hear it through the speakers, (Iā€™m not running a cap plug on my superline at the moment) none of this is as loud as you describe. I donā€™t think static is your problem. If it only happens when playing a record, which hasnā€™t been fully established yet, and itā€™s not static that only really leaves the internal tonearm cabling. Pickup from an external source will show up with nothing playing.

Logic points to the tonearm cabling I feel.

I said that in post 133 - Iā€™ve actually had this and it produced the same results as described, but in my case I could reproduce it by manually moving the arm to and fro (a lot) along with up and down. When I ripped it all apart I found there were the 4 wires from the cartridge to the connector, plus a fifth, much shorter one which ā€œtouchedā€ the arm tube and was joined to one of the signal grounds (to ground the arm tube) - that short wire looked fine, but was broken inside itā€™s insulation - I suspect because it was a ā€œgarden shed manufacturedā€ type of device and the builder had been over-excitable with the wire strippers and had broken the wires when stripping the ends ready to make the joints. The strands were touching each other most of the time, hence only an intermittent issue.

It may be possible to check this with a multi meter if you can access both ends of each of the wires - a break would show as a needle movement if you were measuring resistance. If you do this remeber to disconnect from the cartridge and phono amp before testing or youā€™ll be putting DC into either/both.

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Interesting, thanks for that.
After much searching today for the old ATOC9 cart Iā€™ve remembered I put a load of stuff in the loft. Iā€™ll get it down tomorrow and while the XX-2 is off Iā€™ll get the multimeter out too - not that Iā€™m proficient using one.
Also, I thought you were referring to the tonearm cable rather than the cabling in the arm itself.
Weā€™ll see what tomorrow brings.

Talking of loud cracks, probably a good time for some to start unplugging their systemsā€¦

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Well I have the ATOC9 on the arm and set up, just waiting for the all clear on the storm front to power up the system.
Does anyone use an ATOC9 with a Superline and if so what resistance plug do you use? I have a 453ohm air plug for the XX-2 but it looks like I may need to drop it to either 100ohm or 220 ohm.
Regards,
SteveO.

There was a fairly recent thread to which Richard Dane replied:

Cheers for that. I tried searching the old Superline loading thread to no avail. Iā€™ll leave things as they are for a starting point at least. I doubt the cartridge will stay in place for long. The info in the box with the cartridge says 20ohm but most info I could find on tā€™internet, people preferred either 100 or 220 ohm.
Cheers,
SteveO.

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Right chaps, this could be an interesting development.

Just done 2hrs with the ATOC9 and it has worked flawlessly, albeit a little underwhelmingly. That isnā€™t entirely fair to the ATOC9 though as the resistance on the Superline is set up for the XX-2. That isnā€™t what has piqued my interest though ā€¦

Now I donā€™t have much of a clue what Iā€™m doing with a multimeter but Iā€™ve picked up a few pointers from this thread and a couple of YouTube videos. Donā€™t ask me why I did it but I was about to bin the copper gasket @Richard.Dane suggested I try seeing as it didnā€™t cure the problem when I decided to stick the multimeter on it. One side read ā€œ1ā€ and the other side ā€œ0ā€. I gave the ā€œ1ā€ side a scrub with some wet and dry and now both sides are reading ā€œ0ā€. Iā€™m guessing one side had a coating that prevented it from performing itā€™s intended job.

Now Iā€™m in a quandary, do I stick with the ATOC9 for a few weeks and see what happens or put the XX-2 back on and see if the gasket does the trick.

Regards,
SteveO.

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The xx2 is your go to cartridge, so i would put it back in

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In light of the gasket continuity issue, I would put the XX-2 back on and re-do the tests.

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Actually Richard, I woke up at 6am and have done just that. Sadly it was my first thought on waking.
Having an early morning listening session right now.
Regards,
Steve O.

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Right, Iā€™m trying not to have a Eureka moment here - Iā€™d be foolish to think the problem was solved after 3 albums when the problem has gone a couple of weeks before now before appearing like a bolt out of the blue again.
BUT ā€¦
Iā€™ve been using an XX-2 for just over 10 years and my only criticism has been the surface noise - thereā€™s not a lot but over the course of 40 years in this mad hobby Iā€™ve had quieter.
All of a sudden itā€™s vanished. Was that noise a minor manifestation of a static problem all along? Iā€™m hoping if the gasket has improved the earthing to an audible extent on replay it might prove enough to prevent any static build up and subsequent arcing.
I know Iā€™m getting a bit carried away but after 9 months trying to get to the bottom of this I so want a solution.
Will keep you all posted.
Regards,
Steve O.

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Seconded :crossed_fingers:

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Thanks for that guys.
For the first time Iā€™m feeling like Iā€™ve actually done something that could have solved the problem as opposed to merely hoping, and I really enjoyed yesterdayā€™s listening. Every other time Iā€™ve listened to vinyl for the last nine months my enjoyment has been tempered by the expectation of a loud crack.

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And itā€™s back to the drawing board.
Iā€™ll take the XX-2 out and put the ATOC9 in and listen to that until such time I can I can draw a conclusion.