Mastergroove 4

After neglecting my turntable set up for several years in favour of my streaming set up, I upgraded my Tom Evans Mastergroove 2 to the latest 4. In the interim, while it was being upgraded, Audio T serviced my Well Tempered turntable.

I plugged in the Mastergrooove 4 on Thursday and unsurprisingly it sounded slightly wrong. Yesterday it was better but still way off the streaming set up benchmark, which the Mastergroove 2 was generally equal to.

This morning is another story, much more open and probably beating the Streaming sound. Getting a great real live music sound.

Hopefully more to come.

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We have not seen you since a while. Hope you will enjoy the Mastergroove 4.

Have you made some changes on the streaming side? Still Nd555 with 2 ps, Etheregen and clock?

Hi Frenchrooster.

Yes I have been keeping up with the forum but not posted for a long while.

I have never had nd555 but use Emm labs for streaming playback. Been using there Dac etc for 15 years.

I changed the 2x etheregen to LHY audioAS10 pro powered by Sean Jacobs about a year ago, which is very good.

I hope you’re doing well too.

Cheers

Rich

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How is the Emma Labs sound characters ? Is it full and quick, involving ? I don’t doubt about its resolving capabilities or soundstaging.

I have a Mastergroove 2 so interested to hear your observations on the improvement. Can I ask how much the upgrade cost, and what cartridge you are using?

Hi. I use it with clear audio insider reference cartridge.

Which I like very much. I think the upgrade costs depends on several factors of age etc so I don’t think I can reveal the deal we struck but as you probably know Tom is always very fair.

It’s more into 000s than 00s. But you can expect that on a high value hifi item that becomes latest spec and essentially becomes a new product.

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Basically it’s sounding excellent. Same type of sound, very organic and natural, just more of the same. I detect the tiny detail is being captured more.

Only 3 days in and sounding slightly better than before. I presume, from previous experience, plenty more to come.

All my conclusions are by comparison to my streaming set up which I consider the best I have heard and remarkably similar sound.

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I once had a rather nasty incident with a Clearaudio Insider. It had been lent to us for evaluation and I had it in my hand ready to mount to an Aro when it just fell apart into two pieces. Eek! Double 'eek!" when I discovered what it cost…

Oh no!! Terrible

Ok, thanks, that’s helpful. I have owned the MG for over 10 years, and bought it when I had a different turntable and cartridge (Brinkmann TT/Lyra Etna) to my current LP12/Linn Kendo, which I have had for a year or so. When I bought the LP12 I heard the combo through a Rega Aura, which has a warmer sound than the Mastergroove - although the MG beats it for detail and clarity. I have been contemplating switching the Mastergroove for the Rega, but maybe I would be better off updating the Mastergroove to mk4.

I can let let you know in a few weeks if I think it is worth the upgrade when its fully run in.

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Perfect, thank you

FWIW

several years ago I upgraded my Mastergroove to full SR spec

Took about 6 months before it finally settled down

Lyndon

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May I ask which Brinkmann model you owned? You prefere the LP 12 presentation now?

Hi Lyndon,

Good to speak to you again. Are you still using it?

Hi

Yes, it’s still going strong

The SR upgrade made an enormous difference

Lyndon

It was a Brinkmann Lagrange. My reasons for changing were partly practical (I moved house, I needed a new cartridge, there wasn’t a dealer nearby who sold/supported Brinkmann products, there was Linn dealer nearby etc). Having said that, I do I prefer the LP12 sound, as it is more engaging than the Brinkmann (which could be a little clinical sounding).

That is interesting. The La Grange was one of the top end Bringmanns, praised in all reviews. Maybe just surpassed by the Balance.

The Lp12 has without doubt a different presentation. In the end the decissdion comed to the personal taste.

Thank you for sharing your opinion :slight_smile:

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Midnight Rambler, just curious, what work was done in the service of your Well Tempered Turntable, I have the original version and love it, but curious about servicing.

Basically it was the silicon in the arm damping had gone off a bit after 20 years, it had gone a bit thicker and “stiff”. The arm damping etc had wandered because of this and needed a complete overhaul. Got it back about 6 weeks ago and it sounded excellent again, totally revitalised, which prompted the Mastergroove upgrade. Yes, I still think its an incredible turntable and not really heard anything superior and I have had and tried many over the years. I went from a LP12 to this 20 years ago and now the price of the top Linn prohibits me ever thinking of going back.