ND5XS2 Discontinued

I visited my local dealer today to pick up a Naim cable and discussed with them about upgrading my source in the future to the ND5XS2

Unfortunately they can no longer order ND5XS2’s as it’s been discontinued by Naim… what a shame

The only option they could offer me, in the Naim range, was the 222 @ £5.7k

In my view Naim seems to now be prioritising what I would call ‘lifestyle’ products or very very high end products but nothing in between

Does anyone know if that’s Naim’s priority going forward?

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Here’s some alternatives for you that Vervent group decided to spend Naim resources on instead.

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It certainly does look that way. There’s been a fair bit of discussion on other threads about Naim’s current offering. But whilst there’s been plenty of heat, I haven’t seen much light. The XS series was where I started my Naim journey so I do find its departure rather sad.

In the mean time, at least one dealer is clearing out old stock, including new ND5XS2 at a very good discount and “nearly new” a few £100 cheaper still. Time to jump?

Roger

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Okily BB

I’d take the yacht any day but not to listen to my music with

Roger can you let me know what dealer you refer to with the ND5XS2 at a good price?

Thanks

Careful calling them lifestyle products, I did that and people got upset :laughing: Have a search for the other threads.

However, if you are asking if naim’s product line and strategy now revolve around all in one systems suitable for use with passive (Atom, Star, Nova inc PE) or active (Atom HE) speakers, then yes you are correct. These are their high volume sellers.

The NC separates (much higher entry cost) and 500 series components are still available of course. Low volume sales.

naim also offer the CI series, but not focused on domestic use.

naim have withdrawn from the market for lower budget separates, ceding this sector to brands including Mission, Audiolab, Rega, Cyrus and others (all with recent product launches).

And of course with the withdrawl of the Supernait 3 due to parts security, there is no integrated amp in the current range.

Good time to buy an ND5XS2, looking at offer prices. Or pick up a used one from as low as £1200 (auction). If prices drop much further (under £1k) we might swap office RPI for one. That way, if we upgrade lounge DAC the nDAC could simply move into office.

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I would ask your dealer about the Uniti ATOM HE , it seems well regarded within NAIM

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@Ian2001 The OP will need an RCA cable to connect their CDP. @HungryHalibut uses the Atom HE with active speakers. I wonder if the OP is considering that possibility?

I’m definitely not looking to go for an HE

Naim for Zeekr. Oh dear.

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Preowned nd5xs2? They appear from £1200. They’re pretty good as they are and can respond well to a nDac. Or go with a Wiim Ultra and even a Ndac as well for less than a pre owned nd5xs2. Ive tried that too and it’s not at all bad. I know my dealer is doing nore pre owned naim now that they were 3 years ago.

From the opening comments it looks like naim is moving away from resonably priced.

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The phrase ‘lifestyle product’ gets bandied about a lot here, particular in attacking Naim. Could somebody explain what a lifestyle product is and give some non-Naim examples?

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That was the figure in my post too.

However a little looking back on auction sites shows some lucky punters have paid £1K or less. At that price, just a few £100s above alternatives often discussed on this forum, it seems like a steal.

ND5XS2 becoming the next hot potato?

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I don’t know who is deleting my posts but I’d love to know why they are doing it… I’m guessing it’s RD and I’m sure there’s a good reason for it

If somebody is attacking me why don’t I have the right to defend myself?

I asked a valid question about Naim’s current position not supporting the mid range system eg. XS3, SN3 etc.

You have a message.

The last batches of ND5XS2s were announced late last year. A shame as a good seller for Naim, but I know that production has not been easy in recent years due to component supply problems. However, there should be units still available at some dealers out there.

As for what might be next, as ever, we won’t know until Naim is ready to reveal…

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The way people listen to music is changing. I guess a smart company takes note of new trends.

The Atom headphone amp has had very good reviews. I am tempted myself. Those single boxes are serious kit.

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What sort of person would buy an Atom HE? Someone who values pretty looks over high quality sound? This lifestyle stuff will never compare with real hifi. To be real hifi separate boxes are essential, with cables carefully chosen for each connection and a suitable isolation rack to optimise performance. How can anyone really believe that one little box sitting on a coffee table can sound any good? They are deluded.

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I’ll take a sip of my latte machiatto and while striking through my well-oiled beard I’ll select the next playlist on my Atom HE.

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Are you being sarcastic @HungryHalibut ?

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